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bobdec2
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| Posted 2/6/2006 11:17 PM (GMT -5) |   | I've had the same problem along with playback problems. I can never begin a playback without a hesitation or a pop at the beginning of the playback, and also at the end of the piece. Finale always wants to scroll a few beats at the end of the piece. Sometimes the scrolling stops completely, but the playback continues. Like you, I have to get out of Finale and start over. Except for the playbAck problem, the scrolling doesn't always act like that, but I know sooner or later it will. I've brought this up in the GPO forum and here at the Finale form. I have lots of company but no help.
I'm using 2006c. I had no problem whatsoever with 2005b.
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Ron.
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| Posted 2/7/2006 1:11 AM (GMT -5) | |
Gary Daggett said...
I have that problem randomly with Win2k and 500meg of ram. I know the ram is marginal but I don't use many of the fancy playback options. I think my situation is that I run out of resources eventually and have to reboot to clean it up?
Gary
That has been my experience too, Gary. I have 2 GB of RAM, but a full orchestra uses almost all of it. The problem most often occurs when I have been running other applications on my computer between Finale sessions. I haven't noticed any difference between 2006b and 2006c.
I suspect that some areas of memory are not being released, or are being over-written. I've just gotten used to rebooting before using Finale.
RonFinale 2006c and full GPO
XP/Pro, P4 2.6 MHz, 2 GB RAM, Audigy
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centexdance
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| Posted 2/8/2006 12:21 AM (GMT -5) | | Well, I do have this issue, and for me, it is usually when I am using soundfonts. A more recent problem is that, I used to be able to use the regular general midi, as one device (tracks 1-16) and also use other soundfonts for tracks above that. Recently, I have to actually USE a soundfont, and nothing else. It won't do anything without using a soundfont, so, I track back to using the sf that came with finale to begin with, until it is time for me to do something else.
Also, the balance is not right anymore. For instance, I can have the same volume for every instrument but all my brass instrumenst barely blow any longer (have no clue what that is about)... In short, my playback is every kind of messed up that you can imagine.
I haven't run any updates on my Finale? does it do that automatically for me or something?
Thanks
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Nickie Fønshauge
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Fritz Meissner
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| Posted 2/8/2006 12:58 PM (GMT -5) | | bobdec2 said...
Ebony Ivory said...
Just a thought: are the playback problems occuring with the standard Finale softsynth, or GPO? If the former, can an earlier softsynth (eg 2005) be used instead, and does it solve the problems?
Brian
For me, it happens on GPO and the soundfont. You can insert the 2005 soundfont by the way of Midi setup. Click on SoftSynth settings then "select". This will bring you to component files. You will see the file "synthgmd.sf2" That's the 2005 soundfont, or that's what Finale tells me. I have the same problem no matter what I use. Hope this is clear and it's of some help.
You need to differentiate between the Softsynth and the soundfont. The Softsynth is the part of the program that plays the sounds; the soundfont is the file that contains the sound samples that the softsynth plays back. Changing the soundfont is unlikely to have any effect on the program behaviour. Incidentally, you can't tell which version soundfont you have from the file name - it has been Synthgms.sf2 for all the versions.
I don't know of a way to force it to use an earlier softsynth; one could have a look to see if there is a specific DLL that looks like it should be the softsynth - if there is, then moving the earlier one into the program directory might work. Alternatively, it might just lock up the program completely.
Fritz
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Fritz Meissner
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| Posted 2/8/2006 1:11 PM (GMT -5) | | Nickie Fønshauge said...
Ron,
I noticed you run Windows XP SP2. Apparently there is a bug in SP2 (surprise, surprise). Check out these sites, as they might help you stop the leaking:
The Microsoft link is interesting; they give a workaround that someone who is haveng the problems might try and see if it makes any difference. It is as follows :
"WORKAROUND
If this GDI leak is seriously degrading performance, you can turn off the new user interface theming in Windows XP. To do this, follow these steps: 1. Click Start, and then click Control Panel.
2. Click Appearance and Themes, and then click Display.
3. On the Themes tab of the Display Properties dialog box, click Windows Classic in the Theme list.
4. Click Apply, and then click OK. "
Note that this is specifically for Windows XP with Service Pack 2; the problem that they are talking about does not happen with SP1, or with Windows 2000. Since I notice that some of the people posting are using Windows 2000, this may not be the cause of the playback problems.
Fritz
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Marc Sabatella
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| Posted 2/8/2006 10:42 PM (GMT -5) | | | Just some more data: I have similar issues with SoftSynth playback - every once in a while, it just stops working. Sometimes switching to the default Windows synth works around the problem, sometimes not. Luckily, for me, clicking the "32-bit MIDI Driver" fixes it almost every time. This is 2006c on XP Professional. | | Back to Top | |
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Fritz Meissner
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| Posted 2/9/2006 6:48 AM (GMT -5) | | Yes, you can easily change the synthgms.sf2 file; I've often done that to try out different soundfonts. My point is that changing the soundfont does not change the softsynth program which is running it. By analogy, if you open a document created in Word 97 in Word 2003, you're still running Word 2003, not Word 97. The sf2 file is the data, not the program. If you have a problem with the latest softsynth player, you're unlikely to affect the progam's behaviour by feeding it the soundfont from an older version.
BTW, the 2005 and 2006 soundfonts are identical as far as I know, except for the acoustic piano and violin sounds.
Fritz
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