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   Posted 11/3/2009 1:02 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The number of composers who aren't otherwise musicians must be very small. Even David admitted he played violin as a child.


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   Posted 11/3/2009 3:20 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
octoechos said...
David Young : chambermusic said...

There are a few of us, believe it or not, who actually compose quite well. I don't play any instruments an yet write quite reasonably good music.

The point is not that one can PLAY an instrument to be a better/good composer. Otherwise Ravel should play almost all instruments since his music is well orchestrated. It is not true. But he played piano very well.
The point is that a composer who plays an instrument has another approach of living music / performance / practice / together playing rather than a "paper composer" who can't feel live music when writing music. It is a very big matter of psychology and physiology rather than music.

Like David, I played violin (and Flamenco guitar) for a few years in my adolescence and have't played an instrument since. But, I am a very good observer. During performances my eyes rarely leave the instruments and their players which gives me an good idea of what works for the instrument and what doesn't, as well as the sound of difference registers. Get me at a rehearsal where I can both read the score and watch the musician and I'm like a kid in a playground, soaking up everything I can.
 
I haven't had any complaints about my music being unplayable or unsuitable for the instrument, but I have heard that it can be difficult for the average player. That's fine with me, as I am not the average composer. devil


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   Posted 11/8/2009 7:55 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
>>@ KenP: scrolling while the Measure Tool is selected slows things down; the same goes for the Staff Tool and if you have Staff Styles and they're set to display, scrolling is MUCH slower.
>>Otherwise, scrolling is very fast, even compared to earlier versions of Finale.

Thanks Vaughan! But the speed won't change. I compared every options and tools suggested in 2010 and 2008, and 2010 is twice or three times slower than 2008. sad
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   Posted 11/9/2009 5:40 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Over the past years I have seen the fine Finale developers fix many bugs, although there are still a few that just haven't seemed to disappear. However, I have seen a lor of apparent effort made to make major improvements in Finale's ability to present music audibly (with the Garritan sounds and much enhanced midi capabilities) and to move further into the music education marketplace. [Please note that this is simply a personal opinion coming from a "simple" user...:-)] This time 'round I would like to see Finale concentrate more on notation, and perhaps expanding its plugins and librairies, so that we can add capabilities and make a few things easier to accomplish.
 
As one who works mostly with early music transcriptions (mostly vocal/choral), here are a few features I would like to see:
 
1. A plugin currently exists to determine the range. This reports the range, however, as note numbers (I believe there was a previous lengthy discussion on expressing note positions). These numbers do not, however, as a "simple" musician, tell me what the range is by note name (e.g., "Highest note: 72 ... Lowest note: 59 ...")! I would like to see the response box tell me the range by note name/position. [As I deal most with concert pitch, I have no real idea how this works with transposed orchestral parts.] Perhaps some options with this tool could be embedded so a user could indicate what note position standard was desired?
 
2. Speaking of range, I would like to see a plugin or tool that would determine the range and place this graphically into the score (e.g., 2 small notes aligned vertically with an adjoining line). This is currently technically difficult. [See: http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=5&m=45309&g=45360#m45360 ] The user should be able to determinwe where, and how, the range of a part should be shown (e.g., in an incipit, between the key and time signatures, etc.).
 
3. Incipits (I know, a dirty word...). [See: http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=5&m=79912&g=82125#m82125 and related threads...] I would like Finale to add a tool or plugin so that I may easily add an incipit to my editions. This includes possibly adding an appropriate font library to make this possible in a majority of cases (I suggest perhaps licensing and adding the Toccata font in an updated open Font format). A user should be able to determine what symbols and notes could be placed in an incipit--this includes the possibility of placing a range indication (see above) here.
 
Many of my local early music compatriots have switched to the 's-word' program, and are apparently more easily able to accomplish these tasks (I do not have that program and so cannot evaluate).
 
I could be mistaken in simply not knowing how to easily accomplish these tasks--if anyone has suggestions, I am happy to learn something new. ;-)
 
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   Posted 11/10/2009 5:04 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Peter Worden said...
3. Incipits (I know, a dirty word...). I would like Finale to add a tool or plugin so that I may easily add an incipit to my editions. This includes possibly adding an appropriate font library to make this possible in a majority of cases (I suggest perhaps licensing and adding the Toccata font in an updated open Font format). A user should be able to determine what symbols and notes could be placed in an incipit--this includes the possibility of placing a range indication (see above) here.

Don't see why you'd use a font for incipits.

Here's a 2009 Finale file with incipits. (Someone uploaded it here ages ago. Can't remember who, but they have my thanks.)


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