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Rubin
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Posted 5/6/2010 9:10 PM (GMT -5)

Is it possible to have different clefs in the score and linked parts? Horn 2 and 4 is in bass clef in the score (concert pitch) and should of course be in trebble clef in the part.

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Jeanne R
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Posted 5/6/2010 9:47 PM (GMT -5)

Finale will print whichever is displaying and you can print the score and parts separately. Is it printing you are asking about?

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dfwmd
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Posted 5/6/2010 11:22 PM (GMT -5)

If you want the whole score in Concert Pitch, including other transposing instruments, then Jeanne is right - you can just print the Score in "Display Concert Pitch" mode, and the parts otherwise.

If you would rather not have to switch back and forth between Concert Pitch and not, then you need to do one of the following:

If you want to set it specifically, then your staff by default needs to be in concert pitch, and you would need to create a staff style that transposes the part up a fifth and changes the clef, and apply it to the Part Only. After creating the style, when you are viewing the PART, you would select the entire French Horn line you wanted to alter, and in the Staff tool you would right click to get the Context Menu, and instead of clicking the Staff Style directly, you would go to "Apply Staff Style To" and Choose "Current Part/Score"

Alternately, if you want the Staff to be transposed by default, then You would want to create a Staff Style that REMOVES transposition and apply it to the Score only.

Now that I think about it, the second method would require less Staff Style creation - you would need only one style to remove transposition, and you could call it "Concert Pitch"

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Rubin
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Posted 5/7/2010 2:04 PM (GMT -5)

Yes it´s about printing. If we take the easy way I could just print the score whith the horns 2, 4 in bass clef and when I then do the proof reading, clean things up and print the parts I just change the clef to trebble clef. When writing in concert pitch I think It´s very practical to have the horns as a piano part, 1,3 + 2,4 (If the parts are not to individual and complicated of course). I thought maybe there was a magic button that could make separate clefs in score/parts. Thanks

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dfwmd
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Posted 5/7/2010 2:39 PM (GMT -5)

No - closest you have is a Staff Style which you could apply to the part only. Just a couple of magic clicks, but no magic button. I'd investigate the Staff Style option to save you time in the future if you ever need to reprint anything.

DCrocker
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Posted 5/7/2010 5:16 PM (GMT -5)

In staff attributes, choose Bass Clef as the "First Clef" for the Horn staff.
Under Transposition, check "set to clef" and choose Treble Clef.
When Document is Displayed in concert pitch, the horn staff is in Bass Clef.
When Document is Not displayed in concert pitch, the horn staff is in Treble Clef.

Dean

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(Previously used everything back to version 2.0.1)

Rubin
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Posted 5/7/2010 5:58 PM (GMT -5)

Thank you Crocker, there was the magic click.

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dfwmd
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Posted 5/7/2010 6:11 PM (GMT -5)

Ah, sorry - I thought you had already set up the transposition.

Rubin
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Posted 5/7/2010 6:44 PM (GMT -5)

Thank you to dfwmslkjgfprtmnw!

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