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David Young : chambermusic
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   Posted 7/11/2010 4:13 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Fellow Musicians,
 
  This is my first day of vacation,... but when I get back in three weeks I will diligently come up with a new features request list for MakeMusic.  Well, they already have a long list from last year, from which they implimented a few nice features for Finale 2011.  Please discuss here what new features you would like in Finale 2012 and I come up with a nice list to present to MakeMusic.
 
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   Posted 7/11/2010 7:18 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Copying Metatools and Spacing Metatools.

Also improvement to the "Save Library" options. I'd suggest that every pane in the Documet Options window be savable in a library by itself or in combination with others.

I don't have 2011 so don't know if some annoying little problems that have hung around for a few versions have been fixed, like the defective page forward button that skips an extra page.

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   Posted 7/11/2010 7:49 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
...and I'd still like to know which libraries I have loaded and a way of unloading them if I don't need them.


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   Posted 7/11/2010 7:50 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
My suggestions:
1. Lyric Tool: A "Break Word Extension" character that can be entered during Type Into Score. This comes up a lot in barbershop, where there are "echos" in other voices. You could input lyrics, tap it out for as far as you want the extension to go, and then stop it, whether there is a rest there, or not.
2. Staff Tool: Numbers that show spacing when you use the arrow keys to move staves, like the ones that show when you drag them.
3. Selection Tool: Add C to context menu for Time Signature from selection tool.
4. Time Signature Tool: Move Abbreviate button to top half of screen, so you don't have to go into the "Options" section.



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   Posted 7/11/2010 8:14 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Unless it's already available as a plug-in or in later versions, I'd like an alignment tool for expressions, like the alignment tool for smart shapes.

I'd also like the bug finally fixed that changes user preferences arbitrarily and reverts settings to defaults.


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   Posted 7/11/2010 8:59 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ron. said...
...and I'd still like to know which libraries I have loaded and a way of unloading them if I don't need them.

Yes, me too.  I think I asked about a way to determine which libraries I have loaded a while back (can't locate the post) and someone from MakeMusic said he would pass the suggestion along to the developers.  Let's hope they can add both features.
 
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   Posted 7/11/2010 9:03 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I would like Finale to automatically carry my previous version's preferences as much as they apply to the new version being installed. I hate having to re-setup my toolbars, document settings, program settings, etc. everytime I install a new version of Finale.

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   Posted 7/11/2010 9:20 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
gogreen said...
Unless it's already available as a plug-in or in later versions, I'd like an alignment tool for expressions, like the alignment tool for smart shapes.
Sign me up for this. Actually, I'd like to be able to align *ANY* object, whether Expression, Smart Shape, Text field, etc. using the right-click context menu, preferably with the option for center/left/right alignment as well. And I'd rather it NOT be a plug-in... just build it into the core program, guys!


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   Posted 7/11/2010 10:26 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
1) Something I am wishing for years now is Finale to draw tapered dashed slurs in the smart shape tool (now all we have is a dashed curved line and I stopped using it because of its poor appearance).
And being there why not having the same for ties (some kind of shortcut in speedy like opt (ctrl)- =).

2) The shape expression designer seriously need some update to make it use the standards of today, and more ease in the handling of object. Every time I go there it feels like working on an old Atari computer. The ability to draw bezier curves with multi anchor points (like in Illustrator or InDesign for example) would be a must-have basic feature of this new tool. Why not have the possibility to outline the fonts to make it even more versatile. More precision in the handling of objects, and a way to merge outlined objects (instead of grouping them) would be fine too.


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   Posted 7/11/2010 10:27 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Something that I have actually submitted to MakeMusic as a request, is the automatic export to MusicXML and having it embedded in the .mus file, so that future previous versions of Finale will be able to automatically open files created by future future versions. Makes sense to me. That way MakeMusic can claim "Finally, you will be able to open files in pervious versions!"


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   Posted 7/12/2010 1:32 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm beginning to think this will never happen, but: add an option to hear transposed pitches when entering music into a transposing staff.


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   Posted 7/12/2010 6:41 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Flint said...
gogreen said...
Unless it's already available as a plug-in or in later versions, I'd like an alignment tool for expressions, like the alignment tool for smart shapes.
Sign me up for this. Actually, I'd like to be able to align *ANY* object, whether Expression, Smart Shape, Text field, etc. using the right-click context menu, preferably with the option for center/left/right alignment as well. And I'd rather it NOT be a plug-in... just build it into the core program, guys!

To be honest, I can't really see the need for this. As far as I can see, the existing options for auto-placement of expressions, together with the use of the TGTools "Align Expressions/Hairpins" plug-in (which is included in the TGTools "Lite" set shipped with Finale) mean that one can automatically have all expressions and hairpins align automacally, both horizontally and vertically, without the need for manual adjustment. I don't see why additional functions are needed to accomplish this?


 
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   Posted 7/12/2010 6:51 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
When you flip from the Selection Tool to Speedy Entry I would like to see the cursor stay on the same measure instead of going to the upper left one every single time.


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   Posted 7/12/2010 8:05 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I would like to see MM devote a section of the manual to clear and concise instructions for the various ways of increasing the volume in playback. I just did a Google search and there have been 1,610 posts to the forum regarding this issue. That's nuts.


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   Posted 7/12/2010 8:58 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Unicode, unicode, unicode (and an update for Allegro).

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   Posted 7/12/2010 9:55 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Smart arpeggios! I'd love to be able to assign an arpeggio marking and have it automatically appear at the right length. (As long as this can be overridden if necessary.)


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   Posted 7/12/2010 10:35 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
warrenbarnett said...
Something that I have actually submitted to MakeMusic as a request, is the automatic export to MusicXML and having it embedded in the .mus file, so that future previous versions of Finale will be able to automatically open files created by future future versions. Makes sense to me. That way MakeMusic can claim "Finally, you will be able to open files in pervious versions!"

That's a GREAT idea!!!  I hope MakeMusic gives your request some serious thought.


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   Posted 7/12/2010 11:17 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
1. The ability to copy measure/system layout from one part to another. Like what is currently available in TGTools.

2. Since optimization no longer exists in its previous form, once we tweak all of the staff positions on a score page, I need a way to copy those exact staff position adjustments to different score pages.


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   Posted 7/12/2010 3:14 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Good work everyone! Let's keep them coming.

(from my hotel room in Paris)

David


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   Posted 7/12/2010 5:20 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
rbratton said...
I would like Finale to automatically carry my previous version's preferences as much as they apply to the new version being installed. I hate having to re-setup my toolbars, document settings, program settings, etc. everytime I install a new version of Finale

Randy, I usually make a copy of my previous preferences file, change the name of the year and drop it into the new Finale folder. When I launch the new Finale version, all my preferences are there. At least this works on the Mac.


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   Posted 7/14/2010 12:20 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Michel,

Thanks for the reply! Yes, I thought there was probably a way to do it, but it sure would be nice if Finale would handle the task automatically during install.

thanks,
randy


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M-Audio Keystation 49e USB Keyboard, Kurzweil Midiboard
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   Posted 7/15/2010 4:59 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Non-contiguous selection with selection tool

Ability to save and name mass edit filter settings-then let us prgram and use metatools to recall them

Show how many measures are selected with the selection tool

Editable tempo graph to fix minor errors made with tempo tap. Or, to get precisely what you want without having to tap.

Allow chord window to remain open while you are entering chords. (so you never have to memorize suffix numbers)

Control-click-on-an-object-then drag to make a copy. For example...Have a chord on the screen you want to copy? Hold control, click on the chord, hold the mouse button down, drag a copy to a new location. This would work with many different items.

Add the new expressions shortcuts to smart shapes. (control down arrow to copy to the staff below, etc...) Once you get a crescendo the way you like it on one part, you can copy that to every stave with two keystrokes.

Text tool-change the shortcut key for alignment (top header) so control - zooms out like it does in every other mode. The shortcut key for zooming out should be consistent for all tools. 


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   Posted 7/15/2010 5:04 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Motet said...
I'm beginning to think this will never happen, but: add an option to hear transposed pitches when entering music into a transposing staff.

This would be nice to have.


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   Posted 7/15/2010 5:16 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Display of tempi :
For movie composers : Fit to time (Midi Tool) : it should be possible to display the result of the calculation of a tempo on the score. Generally speaking, a tempo map would be nice to have on top of the score (displayed if needed).


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   Posted 7/15/2010 5:35 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I definitely agree with the thing about hearing the transposed pitch when you enter music into a transposing staff. I usually like to work in transposed pitch rather than concert pitch so I can immediately see what the player is gonna see, but any time I need to hear the right pitch as I'm entering it I have to change it to concert pitch and then back again. I know many people prefer to work in concert pitch, but for those of us that would rather work with a transposed score or part it would be nice to hear the correct transposed pitch when entering notes.

Also, I was about to make a new topic asking about this cuz searching didn't help much, so I don't know if it's been improved or not, but it'd be nice to have a foolproof quick and easy method of having the playback swing the 16th notes without doing anything that might change the appearance. Any time I work on something that's sort of a funk shuffle or just funk where the 16th notes should swing a little bit, I die a little inside when I hear Finale play them back straight.
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