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RobCS
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  		   Posted 2/4/2009 9:36 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have a sax piece that begins a solo about 2/3 of the way through. Other than creating 2 staves throughout the entire song (one for the main part and one for the solo) is there any way to introduce the extra stave for the solo section only in the part where the solo exists? I've tried putting both parts on the same staff, but the parts "cross", making it hard to follow. By the way, I'm using PrintMusic.

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  		   Posted 2/4/2009 9:53 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You will need to create the extra staff for the whole piece. Thje good news: after that, enter the notes in the measures needed, then go to page layout and optimize the score. If PrintMusic doesn't allow that all at once, select Allow Individual Staff Spacing on a system by system basis, then, in the Staff Tool. A new lower handle appears on each staff. Select that and press delete to hide the staff for that system only. That way, only the systems where you need the extra staff will show it.

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  		   Posted 2/5/2009 8:46 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks, Zuill! I never would have found that in the pdf manual. Appreciate it!

Rob
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  		   Posted 2/7/2009 2:13 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
One last question, how do I add back a second staff to a system after it's been deleted? It that possible?
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  		   Posted 2/7/2009 3:14 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You have deleted a staff and want to add it back through the entire piece?

If so, using the Staff Tool in Scroll View, double click where you want the staff, then respace the staves.

Bill
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  		   Posted 2/7/2009 3:29 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Actually, Bill, I want to just add the staff back to one line of the music. In page view, it's the last line (3 measures) that I need to add the second staff to. I can see the staff in scroll view, but it has been hidden in page view. I need to see it in page view again.
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  		   Posted 2/7/2009 3:32 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If you deleted the staff you'll have to add it back for the whole piece, then optimize it away where you don't need it.

If it's gone because the page was optimized, then you just remove optimization for that page.

Bill
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  		   Posted 2/7/2009 3:42 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have the second staff in some places, but "deleted/hid" it in others. Now, I want to reveal it in one line of the song. I'm not sure how I would add it back for the whole piece, nor am I sure how to "optimize". The help manual doesn't seem to go into that. How do I reveal that staff in that one line of the song, in Page View?

Post Edited (RobCS) : 2/7/2009 1:49:28 PM (GMT-6)

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  		   Posted 2/7/2009 3:57 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If you removed it by optimization, Page Layout Tool > Page Layout > Optimize Staff Systems > Remove Optimization.

Those instructions are for Finale. If you're using something else, the instructions may be different.

Bill
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  		   Posted 2/7/2009 4:02 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm using PrintMusic, so "Optimize Staff Systems" is not an option.

I used Zuill's advice to add the staff thoughout the piece, then "delete" (or "hide" as he called it), the unwanted lines. But once it's hidden in Page View there doesn't seem to be a way to reveal it again, even though I can see it in Scroll View.

Post Edited (RobCS) : 2/7/2009 2:07:09 PM (GMT-6)

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  		   Posted 2/7/2009 7:46 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Go back to the Page Layout menu, and uncheck Allow Individual Staff Spacing. All of the staves will return. Recheck in the menu, and start over.

I always save that step for last!


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  		   Posted 2/7/2009 10:15 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks Mike. I should have known to check with the PrintMusic Master! Appreciate it.
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