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    |  Mike Rosen himself

       Date Joined Feb 2006 Total Posts : 6757 | Posted 7/24/2010 5:51 PM (GMT -5) |   | Since you're just setting a cat on the keyboard, does it matter?  Mike Rosen www.specialmillwork.com
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 |  Claude Krier Registered Member
        Date Joined Feb 2004 Total Posts : 27 | Posted 7/25/2010 3:24 AM (GMT -5) |   | | In modern notation, an accidental belongs only to the note where it stands, so if you write an A and an A flat, you do not need an A natural! | | Back to Top | |
 |  Claude Krier Registered Member
        Date Joined Feb 2004 Total Posts : 27 | Posted 7/25/2010 3:25 AM (GMT -5) |   | | |
  |  Claude Krier Registered Member
        Date Joined Feb 2004 Total Posts : 27 | Posted 7/25/2010 4:05 PM (GMT -5) |   | Thank you Bill, this looks ok. But Finale should be capable to display an A and an A flat (or sharp) together in a chord without this natural. In contemporary music its rather a common case! I'll ask the guys from Finale! Claude | | Back to Top | |
   |  Zuill "The Troll"

       Date Joined Oct 2003 Total Posts : 11863 | Posted 7/26/2010 12:38 AM (GMT -5) |   | You can find this in Gershwin. However, the example I know of has the notes needing the angled stem at the end of the chord, not in the middle. This might look a bit awkward, but keeping an A and an Ab needs something to make it clear.
Zuill
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 |  Claude Krier Registered Member
        Date Joined Feb 2004 Total Posts : 27 | Posted 7/26/2010 2:21 AM (GMT -5) |   | As it looks, Finale does not have a general option for this kind of notation. Claude | | Back to Top | |
   |  Zuill "The Troll"

       Date Joined Oct 2003 Total Posts : 11863 | Posted 7/26/2010 12:16 PM (GMT -5) |   | For my money, the only way to make them A and Ab is with a flaired out stem, as it is seen in literature, yet as a sight reader, G# and A is much easier to get on the fly.
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  |  Motet ø¤º°”°º¤ø

       Date Joined Dec 2002 Total Posts : 3170 | Posted 7/27/2010 12:45 AM (GMT -5) |   | | I got Finale to do what you want, though I agree with others that it's not good notation. Enter the second chord as (from the bottom) D-G#-A-D, then change the G# enharmonically to an Ab.
With the Speedy Entry tool, Ctrl-click on the measure to invoke the Edit Frame. Click Next Entry to take you to the second chord, then Next Note twice to take you to Note ID 3, which should be your A natural. Now uncheck Accidental, which will remove the natural sign. Click OK for the change to take place. Playback will be correct.


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 |  Zuill "The Troll"

       Date Joined Oct 2003 Total Posts : 11863 | Posted 7/27/2010 1:56 AM (GMT -5) |   | But, who would play it as an A and an A flat? Thye notation is still confusing, to say the least. If you want any good sight reader to get this one, the 2 A's with only one flat is going to be missed, I'm afraid. I would certainly probably not think to play an A and an A flat.
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