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Dunbar
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  		   Posted 7/30/2010 12:45 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dear Forum Reader:

Please find attached two pictures that tell the story: I do not know how to leave Page 8 half blank (which completes one movement of a two-movement piece); then, start the second movement on Page 9 with the staff in the proper place at the top of the page.

Page Layout is rather non-intuitive in the way it works. If someone can reveal its secrets, I would very much appreciate it.

Thank you.

Yours,

Carson Dunbar
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  		   Posted 7/30/2010 12:49 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Use Edit System Margins. Put a large bottom margin on the first page to force the music to the next page, and on the second page use a top margin of 3 inches or so.

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  		   Posted 7/30/2010 12:55 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Do you just want to insert a Page Break? Right-click on the System that you want at the top of page 9, and Insert Page Break.

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  		   Posted 7/30/2010 12:59 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Bill & Wiggy:

Thank you very much!

Let's see if I can employ your suggestions.

Carson
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  		   Posted 7/30/2010 1:03 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Bill,

Thank you. That worked very well.

Best,

Carson
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  		   Posted 7/30/2010 1:21 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
When you want this kind of gap, rather than dragging the 1st system of II downqwards, select the bottom handle of the last system of 1 and drag that downwards. In effect it is the same as Bill recommended, but by simply clicking and dragging, it is probably (for most people) much faster.

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  		   Posted 7/30/2010 2:18 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Peter,

Thanks very much! This is most helpful.

Best,

Carson
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  		   Posted 7/30/2010 3:33 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Carson, this isn't related to your question, but an observation:

In your Page 8.png file, you should break the secondary beam between the third and fourth sextuplets. Also, the mixed 16th triplets (in the first two bars) would be easier to read and less cluttered if you simply changed the staccato single sixteenth note in each figure to a staccato eighth note.

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  		   Posted 7/30/2010 4:07 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Flint,

Thank you for your kind suggestions. The secondary beams in sextuplets: is that common practice? If that is the case, then you have to label the sixteenths as triplets rather than sextuplets, right?

As to the downbeat sixteenth with staccato, I suppose your are right.

Thanks very much for your observation!

Yours,

Carson
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  		   Posted 7/30/2010 4:25 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dunbar said...
The secondary beams in sextuplets: is that common practice? If that is the case, then you have to label the sixteenths as triplets rather than sextuplets, right?
It is common practice, yes. You do not have to relabel them as triplets, though. Keep it as a sextuplet, but break the 16th beam using the Secondary Beam Break Special Tool.

Example:

 

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If the composer says in effect to the performer: "I do not care whether you perform my music or not," we cannot argue the matter. But if he indicates: "I want you to perform and respond to this music," then his fundamental duty is to write his music so that it is accessible to interpretation. When the performer cannot approach the composer's meaning because of capriciously obscure notation, he may in effect say to the composer: "Why should I bother to puzzle out your music?" - Gardner Read

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Flint,

Ok, good. Thank you!

Best,

Carson
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