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David Ward
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Posted 12/8/2015 5:49 AM (GMT -6)

Can somebody please confirm which of these JW plug-ins (see screenshot of ones I have in 2014d) are unsafe or currently unreliable in 2014.5.

What I'm hoping to do, is first to confirm that I do have the most up-to-date versions and secondly to ignore any that are deemed obsolete, using the JW Plug-in Tool Manager to establish this. In the Finder window I'd then tag all those I mean to transfer (less likelihood of error that way, I think) and copy them en-block to a JW folder created for the plug-ins of 2014.5.

If this would be safe, it would be quicker and easier than downloading them one by one for 2014.5: but would it be safe?

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Dr. Wiggy
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Posted 12/8/2015 6:48 AM (GMT -6)

No doubt Jari will weigh in, but he recently revised and updated many of them. AFAIK, the latest versions will work with 2014.5. I have over 30 that seem to work fine.
However, what works for me seems not to work for others, often.

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Zuill
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Posted 12/8/2015 8:40 AM (GMT -6)

If you run Jari's plugin manager, it tells you which ones are outdated.

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Charles Lawrence
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Posted 12/8/2015 10:47 AM (GMT -6)

If you use links to create a virtual directory in the Plug-ins directory of all installed versions of Finale that points to a single real directory all your JW plug-ins, you can avoid this issue of having multiple copies of the plug-ins, one for each version of Finale. It is totally unnecessary. A side benefit is that the maintenance of the plug-ins will be greatly simplified. I cannot give guidance on the Mac, but maybe a Mac OS expert, like Wiggy, can show you how it is done. Take a look at these links.

http://macs.about.com/od/faq1/f/What-Are-Aliases-Symbolic-Links-And-Hard-Links-In-Mac-Os-X.htm

http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2001110610290643

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David Ward
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Posted 12/8/2015 5:58 PM (GMT -6)

Thank you for the replies.

In the end, I duplicated the JW folder, then trashed any plug-ins within in it that were obsolete before moving the modified duplicate to the F2014.5 plug-ins folder. According to the JW Plug-in Tool Manager in 2014.5 I now have 25 of these installed, 0 obsolete, 0 outdated. One odd thing: once I've closed the Plug-in Tool Manager window, I can't open it again without relaunching 2014.5. The other JW Plug-in windows that I've so far tried appear to be operating normally.

Jari Williamsson
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Posted 12/10/2015 2:18 AM (GMT -6)

All non-obsolete JW plug-ins except "JW Plug-in Tool" and "JW Category Sorter" are Cocoa (meaning "2014.5-compatible" in this case) plug-ins. These 2 plug-ins will be updated shortly.

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David Ward
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Posted 12/10/2015 5:29 PM (GMT -6)

Thanks, Jari, for the clarification.

Its not being Cocao presumably explains the behaviour in F 2014.5 of the Plug-in Tool Manager window I described above.

Writer of Music
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Posted 12/15/2015 7:25 PM (GMT -6)

Jari Williamsson said...
All non-obsolete JW plug-ins except "JW Plug-in Tool" and "JW Category Sorter" are Cocoa (meaning "2014.5-compatible" in this case) plug-ins. These 2 plug-ins will be updated shortly.

I don't know if it applies to other plugins, but I noted that the Note Spacing plugin can only be used once per Finale session. A second time the window will not show up. I must reboot Finale to be able to invoke the Note Spacing window again.

Edit: a quick check learned that the same applies to Accidentals, so possibly to all plugins with a windowed interface.

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Post Edited (Writer of Music) : 12/15/2015 6:31:00 PM (GMT-6)

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