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Trumpet Player
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| Posted 4/13/2011 7:08 AM (GMT -6) |   | | Good morning everyone-
OK I have a couple of questions about tuplets. First, is it possible to manually switch the number (move it from the note side of the tuplet to the beam side) on individual tuplets after there are numerous tuplets in a piece?
Also, I need to enter a triplet in 4/4 time that is a half note and a quarter note in the space of a half note. I can't quite figure out how to do this. If I enter a half note and click on it under the tuplet tool, and enter 3 quarter notes in the space of a half note (or 2 quarters), it only lets me do a half note and an eighth note under the triplet.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give me! John
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Mike Rosen
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| Posted 4/13/2011 8:13 AM (GMT -6) | | 1. Right-click on the number/bracket, and choose FLIP from the context menu
2. Read Tuplets with Simple Entry, at www.specialmillwork.com/finaletips.htm
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Gareth Green
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| Posted 4/13/2011 8:57 AM (GMT -6) | |
COBI said...If anyone knows an easier way to do this in Speedy Entry, I would love to know about it as well.
There are ways of reducing the number of key strokes slightly. The method I use is as follows:
Ctrl-3 (sets up triplet definition)
5 on first note (tells Finale it's a 1/4 note triplet)
Back space (no need to enter 2nd 1/4)
6 (converts 1/4 to half)
5 to enter 2nd note
I believe there is a way to reduce the number of keystrokes by a further one or two, but TBH I'm so used to doing it my way without thinking that I can't be a****d to adapt it ...
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Fred G. Unn
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| Posted 4/13/2011 11:26 AM (GMT -6) | | I use Gareth's method too. BTW, if you need to alter the settings of a lot of existing tuplets at once, select your region and use Utilities/Change/Tuplets.
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Zuill
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| Posted 9/2/2011 10:21 AM (GMT -6) | | I know it's early, so I'm just going to have fun first. You used the word "truplet". Would that be a triplet for a trumpet? (Just kidding as I'm the king of typos.)
Anyway, there can be different ways. If you enter a standard 8th note triplet, can you then change the second 8th to a 16th, then dot the first? That would be simple, I think. Otherwise, there are other ways.
Zuill
P.S.: Love that Beethoven 7th. But why did they use it in The King's Speech? It seems they should have used something by a British composer (Walton would have suited me). Just curious. But love that 7th.
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Mike Rosen
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| Posted 9/2/2011 10:29 AM (GMT -6) | | In simple entry:
Enter the first note. ALT+9 to enter tuplet definition box. Set to 3 eighths in space of 2 eighths. OK. Enter next two notes.
This may leave an extra rest. Delete it.
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Zuill
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| Posted 9/2/2011 11:42 AM (GMT -6) | | As far as the movie, I was actually thinking of the Crown Imperial written for his coronation. The second theme is good if the first is too roudy. However, Nimrod from the Enigma variations by Elgar would work.
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P.S.: I did at first speculate that the Beethoven was used as irony, as England was at one time part of the Holy Roman Empire (or at least connected to it through marriage and political appointment), and maybe that had something to do with it as war between England and Germany, at least historically, would be tantamount to a family feud. Maybe there's an answer out there that would be interesting to know.
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Ron.
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| Posted 9/2/2011 12:44 PM (GMT -6) | | Motet said...
Ron, the post you're quoting is months old. He asked a new question: dotted eighth+sixteenth+eighth in the space of a quarter note.
Not at my Finale machine right now, but in Speedy entry, I believe you can just type Ctrl-3. Then entering the first eighth will set things up for three eighths in the space of a quarter, so you can add the dot and then the other two notes. If that doesn't work, then using Ctrl-1 plus Enter in place of Ctrl-3 certainly will.
Beethoven's 7th is, of course, in 6/8.
I was reacting to the assumption that because the poster didn't know how to do something that it must be a bug to be fixed.
As for the time signature of Beethoven's 7th: it depends on which movement you are talking about. 
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Flint
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| Posted 9/2/2011 12:44 PM (GMT -6) | |
Motet said...
...I believe you can just type Ctrl-3. Then entering the first eighth will set things up for three eighths in the space of a quarter, so you can add the dot and then the other two notes. This is correct.
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