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dalyhorn
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  		   Posted 1/24/2010 8:50 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Is there any way to import custom metatools from a previous version? I have a boatload of them and have upgraded to find that they are no longer working in the later version. I'd rather avoid rebuilding them all from scratch.

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  		   Posted 1/25/2010 3:05 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
TGTools Transfer can do that. Also please note that in current Finale versions you can reprogram all metatool keys for a tool without closing down the selection dialog.

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  		   Posted 1/25/2010 8:52 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jari,

It looks to me like TGTools Transfer only covers articulations and expressions. Needless to say, reassigning those is the biggest part of the job in restoring metatools. I think you can save tuplet metatools with the Patterson plug-in.

Reassigning metatools used to be one of the biggest headaches with upgrading, but as you mention in the post above, the fact that you can now make all your selections without closing the selection box is a mammoth time saver.

Another big time saver I have is a QuicKey which assigns key combinations to all my tools (Ctl-F for Speedy, etc.).

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  		   Posted 1/25/2010 9:42 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I don't see TGTool Transfer-- is that in the Pro version of TG?

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  		   Posted 1/25/2010 9:45 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Right, it's in the full version.

Modify > Transfer

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  		   Posted 1/25/2010 10:15 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Another really worthwhile investment: Robert Patterson's plugin collection. They are really excellent and save me lots of time. Besides the Beam over Barlines plugin which is included in Finale, there are numerous other useful ones, among which Patterson Beams which I use to improve Finale's beaming angles (and emulate the beams of the Henle edition) and Settings Scrapbook, which enables you to move practically any setting in one document to another one, either separately, any number of them, or all of them at once. This is really handy for updating old files if you've improved settings since they were made. In any case, this includes metatools, and they can be selected separately for articulations, expressions and tuplets. Highly recommended! Here's the link:
www.robertgpatterson.com/-fininfo/finmain.html

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  		   Posted 1/25/2010 8:14 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jari Williamsson said...
Also please note that in current Finale versions you can reprogram all metatool keys for a tool without closing down the selection dialog.

Only in the expressions window! Or am I missing something?

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  		   Posted 1/26/2010 3:49 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Of course, in the expressions window! How else is Finale to know for which tool the metatools are intended (articulations, expressions, tuplets)? Once in the window, you can simply select one of the expressions (or articulations) and press Shift and the desired key. The metatool assignment appears in the upper right corner. Continue as long as you like without leaving the window.

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  		   Posted 1/26/2010 4:22 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
mendoza said...
Only in the expressions window! Or am I missing something?


You're correct, only for expressions. I didn't even realize that it didn't work for articulations... I'll send in a feature request that this inconsistency gets fixed.

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  		   Posted 1/26/2010 8:37 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes, you're right. Not good. I'll submit a request to MM as well.

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  		   Posted 11/29/2015 6:00 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I can't find TG Tools Transfer Plugin - any idea where it is? Do I need to download it? Thanks!

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  		   Posted 11/29/2015 7:00 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It's in the full version of TGTools. It's a paid version, but you have 30 days to try it out. Highly recommended. You can download it here-

www.tgtools.de/index-en.htm

TGTools Menu > Modify > Transfer

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  		   Posted 11/29/2015 5:39 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
That is bloody ridiculous.
I've already paid for the bloody program - why are't these features just built in???

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Post Edited (twistiejoe) : 11/29/2015 4:42:24 PM (GMT-6)

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  		   Posted 11/29/2015 6:03 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
twistiejoe said...
That is bloody ridiculous.
I've already paid for the bloody program - why are't these features just built in???



Even Sibelius has its paid for third party plugins.

And, as Finale has Jari (JW Plugins) supplying free plugins with his labor (Please do though contribute with $ if you can).
Sibelius has Bob Zawalich supplying free plugins.

So, to answer your statement if Make Music does not want to pay the designers of these third party plugins they don't get installed with the program.

Just thank god both Sibelius and Finale leaves a door open in their programs for these plugins. If they did not where would you be than?

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  		   Posted 11/29/2015 6:19 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

FYI,

I've been using the full version of TGTools for years as only a demo.  As stated, it expires after 30 days, but you can still exercise one tool per Finale session.  I can stand to restart Finale if I need to use another TGTool.  One notable exception to this rule is the Options where you can program keyboard shortcuts.

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  		   Posted 11/30/2015 1:18 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Can someone explain how to transfer metatools from one score to another?
I'm going to TG Tools - Modify - Tranfer - Copy
Then opening the score I want them in and going - Paste

They'e not showing up in my expressions ... what am I doing wrong?
Thanks.

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Post Edited (twistiejoe) : 11/30/2015 2:54:31 AM (GMT-6)

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  		   Posted 11/30/2015 9:21 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
twistiejoe said...
Can someone explain how to transfer metatools from one score to another?
I'm going to TG Tools - Modify - Tranfer - Copy
Then opening the score I want them in and going - Paste

They'e not showing up in my expressions ... what am I doing wrong?
Thanks.


Make sure you have both files open - source file and target file. Copy the source and paste to the target. I just tried it with Finale 2014d and it worked. But…

The plugin does not work in Finale 2014.5. If this is a problem, what I would do is use 2014d to transfer the Metatools, save, then reopen in 2014.5 to continue working, if that is your preferred version. You can keep both programs open side by side and ready for use.

I contacted Tobias Giesen of TGTools about a week ago, mentioning that the Tools have several problems with Finale 2014.5. Tobias replied that he was planning on issuing an update to address some of these issues. He mentioned wanting to have it ready last week - it's not yet available, but hopefully very soon.

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Finale 2014.5

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  		   Posted 11/30/2015 9:53 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If you're intending to transfer metatools using 2014d AND you're running El Capitan, make sure you don't open the articulation or expression windows or Finale will crash.

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