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mcdigger
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| Posted 11/16/2015 10:40 AM (GMT -6) |   | I tried that too -- I just didn't mention it because I wasn't copying any rests. Either way, it didn't work.
And hey MakeMusic, how about a setting to allow dotted rests shorter than a beat but not longer than a beat in simple meter? In my 4/4, I want dotted eighth rests, but I want quarter-rest-8th-rest instead of a dotted quarter rest, and I won't even mention how offensive dotted half rests are to me in 4/4. | | Back to Top | |
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 11/16/2015 11:17 AM (GMT -6) | | It doesn't help you, but all I can say is that I don't have the problem on F2014d, no matter what the quantization settings are, provided you only try to copy just the dotted eighth-sixteenth pattern and no extra white space and drop it into a solid black destination box, as your picture indicates you are doing.
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ttw
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| Posted 11/16/2015 12:23 PM (GMT -6) | | I sometimes get things like dotted-quarter, dotted-quarter, quarter changed to dotted-quarter, eighth-tie-quarter, quarter, but only when doing an "insert" rather than a paste. All the sheet music I've examined for Latin-American music prefers the latter notation (doesn't break half-notes). I'm not sure what MM told me about it. Sometimes I get the problem with the figure: eighth, quarter, quarter, eighth, quarter; it will change to eighth, quarter, eighth-tie-eighth, eighth, quarter. As I have mixtures of rhythms on the same page, I've just decided to go with the "don't break main beats" rule. The underlying pulse (quarters or eighths) will show through the notation. With a copy-and-edit work method, it's reasonably easy.
Still, I'd like copy and paste (and things that seem to be pastes) to just preserve what I wrote; I'll take responsibility for notation. I do use some JW plugins to move from one notation to another though.
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Zuill
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| Posted 11/17/2015 12:31 AM (GMT -6) | | I believe both items need to be checked in Quantization settings: Allow dotted rests in Simple and Compound Meter. This should solve the dilemma at hand.
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mcdigger
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| Posted 11/17/2015 1:42 AM (GMT -6) | | Zuill, that worked :) Thanks! Although -- changing a setting for a meter I'm not using -- THAT fixes it? There's no rhyme or reason in that.
Mystery solved, but now I have a lot of long dotted rests to fix . . . I guess I traded one battle for another. | | Back to Top | |
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 11/17/2015 9:22 AM (GMT -6) | | Zuill,
I don't have the dilemma, and I only have allow dotted rests in compound meter checked, which may be the default, since I've never changed it, AFAIK. Since this is a program, and not a document setting, maybe I did sometime in the distant past.
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mcdigger
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| Posted 11/17/2015 10:48 AM (GMT -6) | | | Thanks everyone. I'll keep it set that way. Weird little problem, weird little solution. | | Back to Top | |
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Zuill
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| Posted 11/17/2015 5:05 PM (GMT -6) | | I'm sorry. I meant to say that in addition to the first check box (which was reported to have been selected), the second one is the one that will make a difference in this situation. That's why I said both. The first box does not affect this scenario.
Sorry for the confusion.
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