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Craig Buhler
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   Posted 10/10/2015 11:53 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The "Linked Parts" tutorial video is not clear.  http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2014Win/Finale.htm#Finale/Quick_Start_Videos.htm#Parts
Attached here are 2 screen shots showing the original score and one of the linked parts.
As you can see, the title, author, page number, etc. are in the wrong places.  The arranger credit is off the page.
Also, the staff spacing is not consistent from page 1 to page 2 of the part.
Perhaps the problem is that the score is landscape while the parts are portrait, a situation which would seem to be fairly standard.
Anyway, the video breezes through the description, without addressing any of these concerns.
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   Posted 10/11/2015 3:19 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Craig Buhler said...
…Attached here are 2 screen shots showing the original score and one of the linked parts.
As you can see, the title, author, page number, etc. are in the wrong places. The arranger credit is off the page…

It is always best that you attach an actual Finale document, rather than a screen shot.
Without seeing an actual Finale document we can only guess.

When you say “As you can see, the title, author, page number, etc. are in the wrong places.”, you do not tell what you need.
What are “the right places”?
Should the text block e. g. be horizontally aligned Left, Centered, or Right?

Fortunately your screen shots are taken while Finale is in the Text Tool so that we can see the text block handles.

My guess is that this is “user error”, at least for the arranger credit:
The text block handle on the arranger credit is at the right end of the text block, thus revealing that this text block is aligned Left.
You probably need this text block to be aligned Right (= aligned from the right page margin).
You can change the alignment in the dialog box Frame Attributes.


Craig Buhler said...
…Also, the staff spacing is not consistent from page 1 to page 2 of the part…

When creating new systems and pages in a linked part Finale uses the settings in
Document menu > Page Format > Parts…

Fix (for parts that are not already generated):
First make sure that the settings in {Page Format for Parts} are as needed, then use the Page Layout Tool to Redefine Pages.

Are you an experienced Finale user?
I am not sure how detailed instructions you need.

I hope that this is clear?
If not, ask again.

Peter


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   Posted 10/11/2015 3:11 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thank you for your help, Peter.
Yes, I have been using Finale for 10 years (after using Allegro and 2 earlier products since 1992).   However, I am new to "linked parts."   Most of my work has been with scores only, not individual parts. 
When parts were generated, I schlepped through each un-linked part, often spending an hour formatting each one.
In order to create the dozen big band charts needed at this time, it would be preferable to develop a re-usable template with everything in its proper place. 
One learns techniques and shortcuts over the years, but some of the subtle manipulations are a bit more elusive.
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   Posted 10/11/2015 4:47 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
There is a plug-in from Jari W that should be able to help transfer the format of one part to the rest.


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   Posted 10/11/2015 5:17 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Am looking through the Finale Plug Ins menus and not finding anything from  Jari W in any of the sub-menus.   How do I access that utility?
This is the email received by Glenn Miller arranger Gerry G.:

I use the finale "Jazz font set"

When I begin working on a chart, I go to the Templates that are pre-loaded and choose "Band Templates/Jazz Band (Jazz font) and just about everything is already set up in the template - even when extracting parts, it seems to automatically produce a good looking result.  I do then use the Text tool to make the final pages look good.

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   Posted 10/12/2015 7:25 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Craig,

I also found the Linked Parts feature somewhat confusing at first, but it is really powerful once you get a few things down. For your text blocks, try this:

For the 'Arranger' block, right click on the block (editing the score) and select 'Edit Frame Attributes', and attach it to the right side of the frame (see attachment here.) This should put it back on the page in your linked parts. You may need to "Relink" the text block to the parts (again by right clicking) if you have moved the block in the actual parts.


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   Posted 10/12/2015 9:36 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jari is an independent developer (and an expert) who has his own site at

www.finaletips.nu/

Look there to download any of his free plug-ins. I think the one you want is called "Copy Part Layout."
I downlooaded most of them and keep them in a separate JW Plug-in sub-folder under the plug-in menu.


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   Posted 10/13/2015 2:53 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thank you for these helpful comments.
One last bit of confusion:
What is the difference between
     FILE / EXTRACT PARTS
     DOCUMENT / EDIT PARTS
     DOCUMENT / MANAGE PARTS
Do all 3 of these menus function the same way on the same material, or are they intended for different situations?
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   Posted 10/13/2015 4:01 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Extract Parts- When you extract parts, Finale creates a separate document for each selected part.

Edit Parts- lets you work on a single part alone, instead of working on a single part buried in a score.

Manage Parts- look at the dialogue box. It does lots of things. See http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2014Win/Finale.htm#Finale/IDD_MANAGE_PARTS.htm#kanchor2362


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   Posted 10/13/2015 1:15 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"Manage Parts" is essentially for creating or deleting them, or changing their name.


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   Posted 10/13/2015 2:24 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks, Richard. So if the Extracted Part is a separate document, does this mean it is NOT linked to the score and the other parts?
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   Posted 10/13/2015 3:01 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Craig Buhler said...
Thanks, Richard. So if the Extracted Part is a separate document, does this mean it is NOT linked to the score and the other parts?

Yes!

While linked parts generally work well, and allow a different layout than the score, there are still a few cases where you need the flexibility of an unlinked part (= an independent part).
That’s where extracted parts are the solution.

Peter


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