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Fred G. Unn
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| Posted 11/17/2015 6:49 PM (GMT -6) |   | | Nevermind. I forgot that was under View/Show and not under Preferences. The hidden notes are gone. No bug, my bad. | | Back to Top | |
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Jon Delfin
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| Posted 11/17/2015 7:57 PM (GMT -6) | | | If there's no Export to 2014, does that mean 2014.5 musx files can be opened directly in 2014d? Also (and I anticipate a big NO on this), can I copy my .ini file from 2014 into 2014.5 and avoid spending an hour or more customizing my preferences? | | Back to Top | |
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Zuill
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| Posted 11/17/2015 8:01 PM (GMT -6) | | 2014 and 2014.5 files go either way. As far as the ini file, you can try it and see what happens, I suppose. Maybe save the 2014.5 file as is (some preferences have been set) just in case it fails.
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Zuill
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| Posted 11/17/2015 8:04 PM (GMT -6) | |
ttw said...
I've noticed that my sample rates are now at 48000 rather than 44100. Things play from Finale 2014.5 OK; I haven't checked out if audio export is fine. The documentation says that it is no longer required that Finale run at 44100. I figure 48000 (which mine also shows) is derived from the sound card setting. Mine sound card is set to 48000, so that is why I guessed that.
Zuill
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Zuill
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| Posted 11/17/2015 8:09 PM (GMT -6) | | The Hyperscribe Finale Click bug is still there. The settings for downbeat and other beats still are useless. No matter the setting, they are all the same.
Zuill
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Zuill
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| Posted 11/17/2015 8:55 PM (GMT -6) | | Every HP bug that I have had in 2014 is still there in 2014.5? Does anyone have a report on what was actually fixed? It's as if HP was almost entirely ignored.
Zuill
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Zuill
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| Posted 11/17/2015 10:35 PM (GMT -6) | | Another unfixed bug: selecting Display in Concert Pitch causes a respace command. I know I can turn things off in preferences, but in earlier versions, this did not happen, and shouldn't.
What did get fixed? Obviously all of our chatter on the forum somehow fell on deaf ears. I'm glad this wasn't a paid update. I would have really been disappointed. I guess I need to search harder for something that did get fixed.
Zuill
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
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Zuill
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| Posted 11/18/2015 2:11 AM (GMT -6) | | I read the readme and it seems that much of what is there is superficial. What's amazing to me is that many of the HP functionality that was broken in 2014 still is broken. In other words, it used to work, got broken, and remains broken. There are many playback glitches that just make for frustrating playback.
Anyway, it seems they did more about stripping features and plugins, or changing their location, but left many things broken. A good example is the repeated note bug with HP. The only solution is to turn off to incorporate start/stop MIDI data.
I read the list, but not much there.
Zuill
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
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Zuill
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| Posted 11/18/2015 9:28 AM (GMT -6) | | As I said, many of those are either not issues I ever had or are minor compared to the many things which didn't get fixed. I realize SmartMusic is important to many, but I am going to say that the HP playback problems affect SmartMusic as well, and should be fixed. How many posts do we get here about repeated notes not playing back? Many. And that isn't fixed.
I guess MM didn't know that that was a problem for many, even though it was reported many times to them.
I did read the list, several times.
Zuill
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 11/18/2015 10:00 AM (GMT -6) | | |
As I suspected in my previous post, regarding Garritan libraries that do not come bundled with F2014.5, after installing F2014.5, you must properly install the AUXILLIARY files in order to interface the libraries with Finale. The link for instructions and the auxiliary files was posted earlier. Just use F2014.5 instead of F2014 in the instructions. Otherwise, they are now accurate, as far as Windows is concerned. I cannot speak for Macs.
The Garritan Instruments for Finale (GIFF) library had a revision in the XML file available from MM for F2014.d. This revised file, fortunately was carried forward in F2014.5.
I only have the GPO4.02 library, so I can only address it. The soundmap file provided in the auxiliary file (GPO4.ZIP) from the MM website, unfortunately, still is full of typos and omissions. I have corrected the file in the past. If you have it, place it in the appropriate directory in place of GPO4Full.soundmap provided in the ZIP. For anyone using GPO4 who does not have the corrected file, I will be glad to email it to you. Request it via my email link in the left hand panel.
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 11/18/2015 11:40 AM (GMT -6) | | I don't know Craig. All I can say is that my GPO4 was not seen in F2014.5 until I stopped F2014.5, installed the auxiliary files, and restarted F2014.5. The referenced instructions have similar instructions for JABB3, so I am confused if it works for you without having to do what it says.
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Flint
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| Posted 11/18/2015 2:38 PM (GMT -6) | | Just from a cursory play through, my harp glissandi are iffy (some play, others don't), and the sample doesn't respond to staccato or hand damp marks anymore.
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Zuill
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| Posted 11/18/2015 2:43 PM (GMT -6) | |
Derrek said...
Zuill said...
. How many posts do we get here about repeated notes not playing back? Many. And that isn't fixed. Am I correct that you mean the repeated notes blur together rather than that any are missing? I also had to copy the support files for JABB, GPO4, and GWI into the new 2014.5 sub-folders to see the additional Garritan packages in Setup and the Score Manager, but then they work fine. I am talking about an actual muting of the following note(s). Unless HP preferences is set to ignore Start/Stop MIDI data, this can be a problem. And the MIDI data I'm talking about is just the stock data related to Speedy Entry. Since applying the plugin (now a feature) to Apply HP doesn't have the problem, it sure seems they can fix the real time playback.
Zuill
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Ralph L. Bowers Jr.
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| Posted 11/18/2015 3:06 PM (GMT -6) | | Mark Adler said...Good afternoon everyone! I’m pleased to announce that Finale 2014.5 is now available for download. Finale 2014.5 is a free upgrade for all Finale 2014 owners. Finale 2014.5 incorporates new features, bug fixes, and significant modernization of Finale code. The installation of Finale 2014.5 will not change your existing Finale 2014 installation, but installs as a new separate application. There is no need to delete or uninstall 2014d before installing 2014.5. Features added in this release include:
- Options to automatically create double barlines before key changes
- The ability to change sample rates
- A means to quickly and easily reorder staves
- Enhanced MusicXML and EPUB support
- Options to automatically create double barlines before key changes
- The ability to save SmartMusic accompaniments with premium VST/AU instrument sounds, including the provided Garritan sounds
- Updated SmartScore X2 Lite scanning software, with many improvements in core musical features such as beams, augmentation dots, and tuplets
All plug-ins provided with the update have also been modernized, and many have been enhanced, including Finalescript , Global Staff Attributes, Latin Percussion, TG Tools Lite, Band-in-a-Box Auto-Harmonizing and more. Finale’s documentation was also overhauled, offering vastly improved search results and compatibility with any device, including smartphones and tablets. (This could allow you, for example, to have Finale’s documentation displayed on your iPad while you work on your laptop or desktop computer.) The release also resolves several dozen bugs, prioritized by customer requests. A complete list of what’s included in Finale 2014.5 for PC users is hereYou will be directed to your update to Finale 2014.5 by opening Finale 2014 and clicking Help > Check for Updates.
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If it was an upgrade why not have the last 2014d in our accounts also and not just supplanted by 2014.5?
Inquiring minds want to know?
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Zuill
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| Posted 11/18/2015 3:30 PM (GMT -6) | | That bothered me too. It seems someone might need 2014 and not 2014.5. HMMM.
Zuill
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Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed) 2012c, with some bug fixes. 2014c at present. Now 2014d.
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 11/18/2015 3:37 PM (GMT -6) | | The last several releases/updates have been distributed as full functional downloads to be stored on your HD for future use. It did not use to be this way. You should not have deleted the F2014 install file, in case you need it for whatever reason.
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