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Mark Adler
MakeMusic, Inc.

Date Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts : 364

Posted 8/16/2016 1:23 PM (GMT -6)

Good afternoon everyone!

Today I’m pleased to announce that the new Finale is now available, both as a download and a USB drive. As I’ve hinted at over the last few months, some of the highlights of the new release include 64-bit support, additional Garritan sounds, transposed instrument entry, ReWire support, significant streamlining, and more.

We have also updated finalemusic.com. If you currently own Finale, please check out the what's new page to see what this upgrade offers you. If you want to give it a spin, the Free 30-Day Trial is ready to go.
The upgrade price is still just $149. Or, if you are using another pro-level notation product and want to own Finale too, our competitive upgrade is just $149 as well.

Mark F. Adler
Notation Product Manager
MakeMusic, Inc.

Motet
Isorhythmic

Date Joined Dec 2002
Total Posts : 12849

Posted 8/16/2016 2:33 PM (GMT -6)

Sounds good.

> 64-bit support

I think it's worth emphasizing that it's 64-bit only. Those with 32-bit systems cannot upgrade to this version.

Finale 2014.5, 2011b, 2005, TGTools
Windows 7, MIDI input
Finale Transposition Chart

Zuill
"The Troll"

Date Joined Oct 2003
Total Posts : 29077

Posted 8/16/2016 4:25 PM (GMT -6)

Ouch. That may cut out a few users.

Zuill

"When all is said and done, more is said than done."

Win 7 64bit, 2011b, 2012c, 2014d, 2014.5

Favorite Forum quote: "Please, everybody, IGNORE THE TROLL!"

Dr. Wiggy
Early music: modern methods

Date Joined Jun 2006
Total Posts : 12628

Posted 8/16/2016 4:51 PM (GMT -6)

Motet said...
I think it's worth emphasizing that it's 64-bit only. Those with 32-bit systems cannot upgrade to this version.

Intel has been making 64-bit CPUs for the last ten years. How many people are still running hardware older than that?

"This is me helping."

Finale 2014.5, 2012 MacMini; 2012 MacBook Pro (10.11.4)
Edirol FA-66; Roland A-49, HP Laserjet 5200 DTN
Ancient Groove Music www.ancientgroove.co.uk

saxsolos
Registered Member

Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 90

Posted 8/16/2016 8:44 PM (GMT -6)

I tried to purchase it, but none of my credit cards would work. I am looking forward to a couple of features in the new version. So I will try the 30 day free trial. So who do we inform that their checkout process is not working?

i7
Windows8 64 bit
Mac Pro
Finale 2000-2013
Sibelius 6
Garritan JB

weeksc
Registered Member

Date Joined Jun 2000
Total Posts : 349

Posted 8/17/2016 7:48 AM (GMT -6)

Yeah, I think I'm gonna skip this one. Protest non-purchase due to MM's cave on the PDF issue. Same reason I no long perform nor purchase any music by John Mackey or Ticheli.

--Clancy

Finale 2014d
Microsoft Surface Pro 3, i5 256
Windows 10
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Zuill
"The Troll"

Date Joined Oct 2003
Total Posts : 29077

Posted 8/17/2016 8:22 AM (GMT -6)

Since I rely on 3rd party plugins quite a bit, I suppose v25 won't be of much use until those are also updated. Does v25 have the TGTools Lite set?

Zuill

"When all is said and done, more is said than done."

Win 7 64bit, 2011b, 2012c, 2014d, 2014.5

Favorite Forum quote: "Please, everybody, IGNORE THE TROLL!"

Dr. Wiggy
Early music: modern methods

Date Joined Jun 2006
Total Posts : 12628

Posted 8/17/2016 8:27 AM (GMT -6)

Zuill said...
Does v25 have the TGTools Lite set?

Yes, it does. As these are always updated with each release, at a different timetable to the paid-for ones, I would presume that MM looks after the source code for the TG Lite plug-ins; also those by Jari that are bundled with Finale, like System Spacing. (And indeed Patterson Beams.)

"This is me helping."

Finale 2014.5, 2012 MacMini; 2012 MacBook Pro (10.11.4)
Edirol FA-66; Roland A-49, HP Laserjet 5200 DTN
Ancient Groove Music www.ancientgroove.co.uk

Ron.
Composer

Date Joined Mar 2003
Total Posts : 8828

Posted 8/17/2016 8:29 AM (GMT -6)

Zuill said...
Since I rely on 3rd party plugins quite a bit, I suppose v25 won't be of much use until those are also updated. Does v25 have the TGTools Lite set?

Zuill

Yes to TGTools "lite." We are awaiting the pro version.

Finale 2014.5

GPO5, JaBB3, GIO, COMB2, GWI, GIFF, Steinway Basic.

Windows 7; 10 GB RAM.

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Zoots
Registered Member

Date Joined May 2010
Total Posts : 385

Posted 8/17/2016 8:59 AM (GMT -6)

Wiggy said...

Motet said...
I think it's worth emphasizing that it's 64-bit only. Those with 32-bit systems cannot upgrade to this version.

Intel has been making 64-bit CPUs for the last ten years. How many people are still running hardware older than that?

A lot of people are running 32-bit Windows on the 64- bit capable hardware and it won't handle 64 bit applications directly. You can upgrade the OS but you have to ensure there are 64 bit drivers available for your possibly older devices.

Finale 2012c
JABB3/Aria

Smartscore Pro X2

Windows 10

Intel i7 with more than I need

Vaughan
Registered Member

Date Joined Jun 1999
Total Posts : 4984

Posted 8/17/2016 9:38 AM (GMT -6)

BTW, the most recent version of Robert Patterson's plugins (v. 4) is compatible with Finale 25.

Vaughan

Finale 3.2 - 2014.5, Sibelius 4 - 7
Tobias Giesen's plugins, full version, Robert Patterson plugins, Dolet 6 plugin
MacOS 10.11.5
MacPro (2016) 16 GB, MacBookPro (2011) 8 GB

Amsterdam

bpalm
Registered Member

Date Joined Sep 2014
Total Posts : 34

Posted 8/17/2016 10:40 AM (GMT -6)

Yup! Plugins working good here!

Flint
silly bear

Date Joined Oct 2006
Total Posts : 3151

Posted 8/17/2016 12:10 PM (GMT -6)

Any update as to whether the number of active frames allowed in a file are allowed were increased past the current 32k~ limit?

When I asked the Facebook chatbot I got a complete non-answer.

woodwind specialist and doubler - Finale 2014d using Speedy Entry - no capslock, GPO 4 Full, Garritan Jazz & Big Band 3, Garritan Concert and Marching Band 2, Windows 10, 12GB RAM, frequently RTFM.

If the composer says in effect to the performer: "I do not care whether you perform my music or not," we cannot argue the matter. But if he indicates: "I want you to perform and respond to this music," then his fundamental duty is to write his music so that it is accessible to interpretation. When the performer cannot approach the composer's meaning because of capriciously obscure notation, he may in effect say to the composer: "Why should I bother to puzzle out your music?" - Gardner Read

Post Edited (Flint) : 8/17/2016 12:14:55 PM (GMT-5)

Motet
Isorhythmic

Date Joined Dec 2002
Total Posts : 12849

Posted 8/17/2016 12:45 PM (GMT -6)

It looks like the answer is no, according to this:

www.sibeliusblog.com/news/makemusic-releases-version-25-of-finale/

Probably ints are still 32 bits.

Finale 2014.5, 2011b, 2005, TGTools
Windows 7, MIDI input
Finale Transposition Chart

Post Edited (Motet) : 8/17/2016 12:49:26 PM (GMT-5)

Zuill
"The Troll"

Date Joined Oct 2003
Total Posts : 29077

Posted 8/17/2016 1:48 PM (GMT -6)

If v25 is a new and separate program, why is it popping up in 2014.5 as a new 2014.5 update? That doesn't make sense. It says it is version 6858 for 2014.5.

Zuill

"When all is said and done, more is said than done."

Win 7 64bit, 2011b, 2012c, 2014d, 2014.5

Favorite Forum quote: "Please, everybody, IGNORE THE TROLL!"

bpalm
Registered Member

Date Joined Sep 2014
Total Posts : 34

Posted 8/17/2016 2:15 PM (GMT -6)

No clue but man does Finale 25 load FAST. Hot diggity! Way better than 14.5!

Ron.
Composer

Date Joined Mar 2003
Total Posts : 8828

Posted 8/17/2016 2:35 PM (GMT -6)

Zuill said...
If v25 is a new and separate program, why is it popping up in 2014.5 as a new 2014.5 update? That doesn't make sense. It says it is version 6858 for 2014.5.

Zuill

My version number says: 25.0.0.6858.

Finale 2014.5

GPO5, JaBB3, GIO, COMB2, GWI, GIFF, Steinway Basic.

Windows 7; 10 GB RAM.

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Zuill
"The Troll"

Date Joined Oct 2003
Total Posts : 29077

Posted 8/17/2016 2:47 PM (GMT -6)

So, the automatic update feature for 2014.5 has some errors in it.

Zuill

"When all is said and done, more is said than done."

Win 7 64bit, 2011b, 2012c, 2014d, 2014.5

Favorite Forum quote: "Please, everybody, IGNORE THE TROLL!"

Jon Delfin
Registered Member

Date Joined Dec 1999
Total Posts : 783

Posted 8/17/2016 4:40 PM (GMT -6)

The "significant streamlining" link up top goes to an error page.

Flint
silly bear

Date Joined Oct 2006
Total Posts : 3151

Posted 8/17/2016 7:07 PM (GMT -6)

Jon Delfin said...
The "significant streamlining" link up top goes to an error page.

The error is obviously streamlined enough, then. ;)

Bill Reed
Registered Member

Date Joined Feb 2001
Total Posts : 1203

Posted 8/17/2016 8:10 PM (GMT -6)

It looks like every bug has be carefully ported over to x64...

Finale 2014, Sibelius 8.3, Notion 5, Overture 5, Cubase 8
Win10 x64, 32GB RAM
Focusrite Scarlett 18i20
Kontakt, VSL, VE Pro, EWQL Orch, Choir and Pianos
August Forster 190

ShagSher
Registered Member

Date Joined Feb 2015
Total Posts : 4

Posted 8/17/2016 8:13 PM (GMT -6)

Those that have upgraded... Is it worth the price tag? I figured an upgrade like this would be free, am I crazy?

Software: Finale 2014.5; Komplete 10; Reaper

Hardware: Intel i5 2500k; 8gb RA; NViDIA GTX 560; Gigabyte 66-z; 1 TB HD running Windows 7;
Roland A-88; Stienberg UR-22 USB audio interface

Dr. Wiggy
Early music: modern methods

Date Joined Jun 2006
Total Posts : 12628

Posted 8/18/2016 7:26 AM (GMT -6)

ShagSher said...
Those that have upgraded... Is it worth the price tag? I figured an upgrade like this would be free, am I crazy?

Like every version, that's a decision only you can evaluate for your needs. Would ReWire be useful to you? Do you need dashed slurs? Is the improved performance and 64-bitness of interest?
Are any of the many bug fixes a source of relief? Do you work with large time signatures? Are the extra Garritan sounds useful? Does correct playback of transposing instruments fill you with joy?

You can of course download the demo and test it, to see whether anything excites you to a value of $149.

"This is me helping."

Finale, 2012 MacMini; 2012 MacBook Pro (10.11.4)
Edirol FA-66; Roland A-49, HP Laserjet 5200 DTN
Ancient Groove Music www.ancientgroove.co.uk

Post Edited (Wiggy) : 8/18/2016 7:45:56 AM (GMT-5)

Gareth Green
Player of fine trumpets

Date Joined Oct 2001
Total Posts : 2943

Posted 8/18/2016 7:35 AM (GMT -6)

Wiggy said...
Are any of the many bug fixes a source of relief?

Has anyone seen a list of the bug fixes? I tried to find the ReadMe file to download from the MM website, with no success ...

Gareth J. Green

Fin2014c
Windows 7

mm
Registered Member

Date Joined Mar 1999
Total Posts : 715

Posted 8/18/2016 8:17 AM (GMT -6)

Wiggy said...
Like every version, that's a decision only you can evaluate for your needs. Would ReWire be useful to you? Do you need dashed slurs? Is the improved performance and 64-bitness of interest?
Are any of the many bug fixes a source of relief? Do you work with large time signatures? Are the extra Garritan sounds useful? Does correct playback of transposing instruments fill you with joy? You can of course download the demo and test it, to see whether anything excites you to a value of $149.

Exactly! I should have downloaded the trial version first, but (out of habit, I suppose, having always faithfully upgraded for some 15-20 years now...) I had downloaded Finale v25. This version, however, does unfortunately nothing to improve my playback needs, workflow or creation of scores and parts (everything I need to do I can do perfectly well in 2014.5, even in 2012). After playing around with it for a few hours (of course with all my shortcuts, scripts and adjustments not in place anymore) I uninstalled, asked for (and got) my money back. Try it out first!

Finale 3.7 - 2014.5, GPO4.02/5, Cubase, ProTools, ASUS laptop, Intel Core i5, 8GB RAM, WIN 8.1 (64-bit), 18.4'' display, M-Audio Keystation 49 + Mini 32 keyboards

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