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   Posted 1/16/2014 1:24 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
When I export to ePub the result is without the music font, looking very Greek.
I have attached a screenshot, although I see no indication that it has uploaded with this.

The Finale Help is more mysterious than helpful when it states:
Note. If you plan to publish and sell EPUB files exported from Finale additional updates to the file will be required. For example, you will need to introduce a properly formatted cover image, and create a page list so the EPUB page numbers match the printed page numbers.

When you think about it, it says nothing :-(

For example... ok, what other files are required?

Obviously, the fonts are not transferring, so this might be a clue.

P.S. I'm not interested in Sigil or anything else. If MakeMusic offers this feature--which I consider a strong enticement--it should work.

Thanks :-)


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   Posted 1/16/2014 1:41 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
EPUB with Finale is still in its infancy. Don't count on it. Stick to pdf and live with that until they decide to bring things up to par. I believe it is something they will improve when they resolve the bigger Finale issues.

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   Posted 1/16/2014 1:52 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yup. Z is right. ePub in Finale is just a baby. Sigil is your best friend. Or Jutoh.


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   Posted 1/16/2014 2:31 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks guys.

Looks like PDF is the way, for now, and that I was correct about ePub in Beta (baby) stage.

Meanwhile, I'll have to look into Sigil. I would guess the starting point would be to Export to XML and go from there.


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   Posted 1/16/2014 2:40 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Or just go EPS to Epub.


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   Posted 1/16/2014 3:31 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

The problem is not in the epub document, but in the reader you are using.  I had no trouble exporting one of my documents to epub and viewing it in an epub reader that is a plug-in for Firefox. http://www.epubread.com/en/

The extra pages referred to are any cover page/graphics desired, and an extended clickable table of contents.  If desired, these can be added after Finale generates the epub document.  The Finale EPUB engine (at this time) only creates a table of contents for the first page.

FYI, the epub document is really a ZIP file.  Change epub to zip and view it in any zip archive reader such as WinZip.  You will find html renderings of each page (p001.html, etc.) in the OEBPS directory.  The table of contents file, toc.ncx, is really just an XML file that you can edit to add any additional clickable pages you want in a manner similar to the first page.

BTW:  Adobe Digital Editions 2.0 suffers from the same font issue as you report.  I'm not familiar with any other epub readers out there, like Sigil, etc.  I think the reader intended for Finale generated epub documents is Apple iBooks.

PS: Thanks for the tip on Sigil.  It's freeware.  I just downloaded and installed it.  It looks to be full featured and does not have the font issue reported.  See, you can be nice.


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   Posted 1/17/2014 1:47 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
had the same problem. first switched to pdf, now use sigil editor
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   Posted 1/18/2014 12:26 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
macrobert said...
When I export to ePub the result is without the music font, looking very Greek.

Which EPUB reader are you using that gives these results? As Charles said, we know that Adobe Digital Editions has this issue with Finale EPUBs. Is that what you are using, or something else?


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   Posted 1/18/2014 12:55 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
That's what gave me bad results with Finale epub exports. The thing is, shouldn't it be able to be read with all readers? Otherwise, it is not universally accessible.

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   Posted 1/18/2014 2:04 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
That's the goal yes. There should be no difference between readers.


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   Posted 1/18/2014 10:27 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Even though EPUB is a "standard" and any device that reads/writes an EPUB document should conform to the standard, unfortunately there are some that are better at it than others, and I guess there is nothing that says an individual vendor cannot "add" their own "extensions", or interpret the standard in different ways, or not implement a particular "feature", thereby introducing inconsistencies and differences among readers.  Just my 2ยข.


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   Posted 1/18/2014 11:43 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
They can do whatever they want. But there IS a standard. It's called validation. I've used it for every epub I've published and/or edited.
Those who choose to go down their own path are doing nothing but harm for the format in the long run.

http://validator.idpf.org/
https://github.com/IDPF/epubcheck


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   Posted 1/19/2014 5:33 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think this is similar to what my problem in this thread was: http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=6&m=415077&g=417265#m417265

I was generating pdfs, and the guy printing them out was using an e-reader for the job.


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   Posted 1/19/2014 7:58 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey y'all

Well that seems to be the problem. I was curious so I put the ePub file over to iPhone and it looked beautiful.

I agree, the file should be openable in all the readers; I had used A.D.E. v2.0.

Thanks Charles Lawrence for the tip that the ePub file is simply a ZIP.

I'm exploring ideas and how-tos for adding a cover, etc.


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   Posted 1/19/2014 9:02 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Get the freeware program Sigil.  It is a full featured epub editor.  Using it you can easily add a cover page and any graphics you want.


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   Posted 1/20/2014 12:33 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks Charles,

Yet another program to learn :-0 When will it even end.

That said, I'll look into it. I'm also a writer, in addition to composer, and will be needing more tools :-)


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   Posted 9/14/2016 4:55 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
These posts are way back in 2014. I've just updated to Finale 2014 (I know, I'm slow) and the export to epub is exactely what you all describe here. (exactly what sometimes happens when printing a pdf music file where the right fonts are not in place.) I'm going to try SIGIL - thanks - and I'll get a friend to try to read my exported file on her Iphone...
If there are any new things to know or to learn since you all talked about this in 2014, I'd be glad to hear from you.
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