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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 2:38 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi, I just upgraded to Finale 25 from 2014.5, and I've discovered that my keyboard shortcuts for articulations and expressions aren't working. For example, if I want to put a fermata on a note, I should be able to hold "F" on the keyboard while double clicking on the note while in the articulation tool to get a fermata, without having to scroll through the articulations list menu. When I open the articulations list, the shortcuts are still there (the fermata has an "F" listed in the corner of the box). Currently, neither articulation nor expression shortcuts are working. I haven't found any settings in any of the menus I can change to enable this. = Suggestions?

I'm on Windows 10 Anniversary.
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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 2:48 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Shut down and restart your computer.

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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 2:53 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sorry, poparad, but I am not experiencing the difficulty you describe.  With the Articulation Tool selected, to enter a fermata, all I do is hover the mouse pointer over a note, hold down F, and click.  You don't need to double click.  If you do, you get two fermatae (?) superimposed.

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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 3:02 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Do make sure you're holding down F first, but it sounds like you're an experienced user. Also, try resetting the preferences, since I would imagine they changed from 2014.5 to 25.

(Plural would be fermate (Italian) or fermatas (English).)

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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 3:22 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sorry, I misspoke: single click, not double click.

Regardless, the issue persists, and a reboot did not solve it. The shortcuts still work in 2014.5.

And yes, I've been a Finale user since 2001. I've never been aware of a global option to enable or disable the shortcuts, though.
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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 3:24 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Like I say, try resetting your preferences. That will probably fix it.

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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 3:31 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
OK, I just reset my preferences and the issue still persists.
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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 3:32 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm sorry to hear that. What if you reprogram a metatool (press Shift + F, then select the fermata)? Since it sounds like it's already assigned to the fermata, you might also try programming F to be something else, then back to fermata, if the simple reprogramming doesn't work.

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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 3:35 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You are in the right layer, and the cursor is a simple arrow (indicating pointing to a note) rather than a double-lined one, right?

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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 3:42 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I agree, layers is probably the culprit.

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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 3:54 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
No layers. I tried it again on a default template to be sure. If I double click the note, the articulation menu pops up and I can successfully assign a fermata, but the shortcut method won't work on the same note.
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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 3:57 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
OK, I may have found a remedy: If I launch Finale and choose "run as administrator," it works. Finale 2014 always required me to run it this way, or it wouldn't open. Sadly, I was looking forward to that annoying confirmation pop up going away in the new version, but I may have to continue dealing with it.
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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 4:03 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sounds like a file permissions issue.

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  		   Posted 11/29/2016 4:27 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You might ask customer support--it may matter whether you run the installer as administrator.

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  		   Posted 12/2/2016 3:43 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I did a complete uninstall/reinstall as administrator and nothing has changed. The shortcuts are still broken unless I run the program manually in administrator mode each time. I'll see what support has to say.
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  		   Posted 12/26/2016 11:25 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have Finale 25 and Windows 10...the same issue is occurring on my computer as well. If you run the program without administrator rights, you can hold the ctrl key and the shortcut key you desire and then click the note and it will work. It is a Windows 10 thing that I have not found a way around yet.
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