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Motet
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Zuill
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| Posted 8/21/2016 1:43 AM (GMT -6) | | You take the Finale 25 file, open it in 2014.5, add the tempo data, then go back to Finale 25. A workaround, but doable.
I generally use the MIDI Tool to do all my tempo changes as it is much easier than the Tempo Tool.
Zuill
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KennethKen
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| Posted 8/21/2016 2:02 PM (GMT -6) | | I think the MIDI Tool is not as intuitive. Some of the menu commands work by adding MIDI data to the file and some work by editing pre-existing MIDI data but the labeling does not clearly indicate which does what. For example, if you try to Add, Scale (percentage-wise) or Percentage Alter a measure using the MIDI Tool and you haven't already entered MIDI data into the measure nothing happens and it appears like the program is not working. To the average person and "Add..." [a tempo change to my piece at the selected measure] is synonymous with "Set To..." [a certain tempo at the selected measure]. Likewise, than piece/file already has a tempo (as can be seen on the transport bar or an expression at the beginning) so a user is reasonable to think that using the MIDI Tool to Scale (percentage-wise) or Percentage Alter should change that tempo accordingly. But it doesn't...unless you've already add MIDI data to the measure in question.
Then there's the issue of multiple tempo changes that are relative to the opening tempo and later wanting to experiment with different opening tempos...especially if you have hard tempo marks also in the score. The Tempo Tool seems to be happy with Chasing the Tempo from the first measure but the MIDI Tool is not so cooperative.
Ken
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Zuill
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| Posted 8/21/2016 2:11 PM (GMT -6) | | | The MIDI Tool shows graphically what the MIDI tempo changes are. That is easy to see. In prior versions, in the Tempo Tool, you couldn't see the graphic representation. So, you still had to go to the MIDI Tool to easily see it.
The problem with text expressions is that certain HP settings manipulate them. In order to see what I mean, apply the HP plugin or HP feature and then go to the MIDI Tool and look at the graphic representation. You'll be surprised at how the MIDI tempo wanders all over the place as HP applies its voodoo.
Zuill
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KennethKen
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| Posted 8/21/2016 2:38 PM (GMT -6) | | Zuill said...
The MIDI Tool shows graphically what the MIDI tempo changes are. That is easy to see. In prior versions, in the Tempo Tool, you couldn't see the graphic representation. So, you still had to go to the MIDI Tool to easily see it.
The problem with text expressions is that certain HP settings manipulate them. In order to see what I mean, apply the HP plugin or HP feature and then go to the MIDI Tool and look at the graphic representation. You'll be surprised at how the MIDI tempo wanders all over the place as HP applies its voodoo.
Zuill
Certainly the graphic representation of MIDI is easily understood, but that's not what I was getting at. I was mainly talking about the potentially confusing labels which former Tempo Tool users will now have to deal with and the work people working with many relative tempo changes will have to do if they want to audition different starting tempi.
BTW - Which text expression are you referring to. I put in a few but my MIDI Tool window doesn't show anything.
Ken
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