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Motet
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| Posted 4/18/2016 12:53 AM (GMT -6) |   | I know this command fixes some arcane problems, but what does it actually do? The only thing I could find in the manual was
Manual said...
Retranscribe. Choose this command to retranscribe the selected region using the quantization settings in the Quantization Settings dialog box. When retranscribing, Finale does not change any of the MIDI information in the region. It does, however, remove any markings that were entered in the music.
So the the Retranscribe menu choice retranscribes, but what does "retranscribe" mean? Have we already transcribed, and what does "transcribe" mean?
Why is this in the MIDI menu--does it operate on MIDI data? Maybe that's a clue to its function. Is a form of MIDI data created when I enter notes, and does this command replay the note entry? Using the quantization settings, can it serve to "dumb down" the rhythms I've entered, as if I had entered them with Hyperscribe?
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Motet
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| Posted 4/18/2016 11:34 AM (GMT -6) | | I guess this makes sense to me for imported MIDI data or for Hyperscribe, but is there something in the manual I missed, or is this "documentation by rumor"?
Wiggy said...
...but the MIDI data is just "start here, stop there"...even if you've typed the notes in on a computer keyboard: there is still underlying MIDI data.
I confess that "MIDI" has always baffled me about Finale. If I've entered notes on the computer keyboard or even with step time, "start here, stop there" doesn't really make sense. Yet one can invoke the MIDI tool and mess with velocities and durations.
Bob Stiffler said...
Also, if you manually input a melody in 6/8 time and you input it as 1/8th notes you will get 6 individual 1/8th notes with no beams. If you want to play it in 2 beats per measure, change the time signature to a dotted quarter note per beat and retranscribe, Finale will beam the notes to be played as 2 beats per measure.
In this case it sounds like more than just "start here, stop there"--Finale must know that those notes are eighth notes in order to group three of them when you change the time signature. I also seem to recall that Retranscribe can be used to turn 4/4 into 2/4 for example (double the number of barlines). Again, is this documented and I just haven't found it, or have you all figured it out by trial and error?
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Zuill
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| Posted 4/18/2016 11:43 AM (GMT -6) | | I don't know about retranscribe for doubling the number of barlines. Rebar is used more for that, once the time signature is changed.
Every note has a MIDI start and stop time, as well as velocity level. regardless of how it was originally entered. How Finale applies the written notation does depend on quantization settings. I believe the MIDI data is kept the same, as in the quote you gave earlier.
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Motet
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Zuill
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| Posted 4/18/2016 11:57 AM (GMT -6) | | I just tried a change from 4/4 to 2/4 without a rebar, followed by retranscribe, and it did a rebar as part of the process, but with more complicated notation, the rebar was wonky, so I would avoid using retranscribe for that.
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 4/18/2016 12:11 PM (GMT -6) | | In a related issue, if MIDI start and stop events are too precisely timed or overlap for consecutive notes of the same pitch, then it manifests as the perceived "bug" where consecutive notes to not sound during playback.
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