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OCTO.
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   Posted 3/26/2015 11:58 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
This caused a file (orchestral score, 400 measures) to crash not be able to recover. I was in Simple Entry.
No Esc worked. Only OK worked.



I think that was OK.


Finale 2009c now (works better than 2011c) on OS X 10.6.8 and not thinking to upgrade any more until both computers die completely (iMac 21', MacBook Pro 13').


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   Posted 3/26/2015 12:39 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Was this message for a plugin? If so, which one?

You say the file crashed and was not able to be recovered. Did you have a recent backup?

Just curious…

These days, Escape doesn't seem to do a damn thing when used with the Mac OS. I've often wanted to stop a process initiated by mistake (such as copying a folder and its contents) but usually there is no way to do it on The World's Most Advanced Operating System.

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   Posted 3/26/2015 12:51 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Doesn't Mac have Undo? I know that won't prevent a crash. But in Windows, copying can be undone. Finale 2014 has a crash recovery feature which I have found works reasonably well. But for 2009, I guess that didn't exist.

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   Posted 3/26/2015 1:28 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Indeed Mac OS X does have an Undo.
The keyboard shortcut is ⌘Z.

I think that what N. Grossingink wanted to do, was to stop the copying while it was going on, and not wait until the copying was finished, and then Undo.

I have not tried it recently, but ⌘. (Command-Period) used to stop an ongoing action.
Perhaps ⌘. does not stop a copying action in the latest version of Mac OS X.

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   Posted 3/26/2015 1:59 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
N. Grossingink said...
These days, Escape doesn't seem to do a damn thing when used with the Mac OS. I've often wanted to stop a process initiated by mistake (such as copying a folder and its contents) but usually there is no way to do it on The World's Most Advanced Operating System.

The X in a circle to the right of a progress bar in a file copy dialog stops the operation.

Escape is a standard OS shortcut for the Cancel button in a dialog, but it is not and never has been a magic "STOP" event. As Peter points out, Command Period was used for that in some circumstances.


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   Posted 3/26/2015 2:04 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Zuill said...
Doesn't Mac have Undo? I know that won't prevent a crash. But in Windows, copying can be undone. Finale 2014 has a crash recovery feature which I have found works reasonably well. But for 2009, I guess that didn't exist.

Zuill


Mac does have undo and redo - those typically affect the last action(s) at the program level. What I'm looking for is a way to stop a more involved process, usually at the OS level, such as an inadvertant copy of a huge folder that's going to take 20 minutes or, say, the burning of a CD.

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   Posted 3/26/2015 2:08 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wiggy said...
The X in a circle to the right of a progress bar in a file copy dialog stops the operation.


I have had at least one occasion when the "X" was not present, and there was no way to stop the operation. Next time, I'll try .

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   Posted 3/26/2015 3:37 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
These Dbs need a "No" or "Cancel" button. When I get one I use Comm-alt-esc and force Finale to Quit. This prevents the process half finishing. On a big score it can, as you say, crash and leave the file unusable.


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OCTO.
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   Posted 3/28/2015 2:29 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I used plug-in for cross staff. Alt+arrow-down. It worked. Than I double clicked a note. The note was selected in Simple Entry. Than I pressed down Alt+Arrow-down to see if the Cross-Staff works there too. And I have got this pop-up.

I clicked OK, than Cmd+Period, Esc, but nothing happened. It started to do SOMETHING from the start of the document, after some minutes the computer got very hot and fan was running fast. The only I could do is Alt+Cmd+Esc and Quit.

Unfortunately I was working on my MacBook Pro (I use to work on iMac at home), but I was on the trip in a hotel working on a piece. So the ASV was de-checked.
And so, everything was lost, some couple of hours...

Of course, I am guilty not having the ASV checked, but to get an option which you don't have an option is problematic. I cannot repeat the same command (I opened a plain document and tried to do also Alt+arrow-down in the Simple with selected note to see what would happen, but nothing happened...)


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