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Andy2000
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Date Joined Jan 2005
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Posted 12/10/2014 12:55 PM (GMT -6)

I have two questions I'd love to hear some answers to:

How do people judge where to place hairpins vertically? I use Align/Move a lot between dynamics but sometimes there aren't any. I usually just place dummy dynamics, Align/Move, then delete the dynamics, but is there a better way, say, a way to display a baseline? Would be interested to hear all kinds of processes people use!

The other is about instrument names. Is there a way to change the default names for instruments? I find myself starting every project making the same amendments (particularly to short staff names).

Andrew Griffiths,
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Mike Rosen
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Posted 12/10/2014 1:46 PM (GMT -6)

Once you've changed the names, save that as a template.

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Andy2000
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Posted 12/10/2014 2:04 PM (GMT -6)

I was hoping to be able to change in the setup wizard

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Skjalg
Accordion man

Date Joined Nov 2000
Total Posts : 927

Posted 12/10/2014 2:10 PM (GMT -6)

Mike Rosen said...
Once you've changed the names, save that as a template.

True, but that doesn't help if you use the setup wizard. Make a simple Finale script; easy to make and super-fast to use.

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Harpsi
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Posted 12/10/2014 4:49 PM (GMT -6)

In earlier versions you could edit the instrument.txt file, but that is no longer an option.

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Andy2000
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Date Joined Jan 2005
Total Posts : 125

Posted 12/10/2014 5:22 PM (GMT -6)

Harpsi said...
In earlier versions you could edit the instrument.txt file, but that is no longer an option.

What changed, out of interest?

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Mike Rosen
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Posted 12/10/2014 5:41 PM (GMT -6)

It's no longer a .txt file. Now it's a .sql database, or something similar.

Motet
Isorhythmic

Date Joined Dec 2002
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Posted 12/10/2014 6:04 PM (GMT -6)

I wish I had a good answer for your about hairpins. It's an area of Finale which is laboriously manual. I guess I align them with nearby dynamics and other hairpins when present, but otherwise just do them visually.

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Skjalg
Accordion man

Date Joined Nov 2000
Total Posts : 927

Posted 12/11/2014 3:09 AM (GMT -6)

In a score, you can apply hairpins with Jari's plugin "JW Pattern". Combined with Tobias' TG Tools plugin "Allign Dynamics", you should get good results quickly. There will always be some final fine-tuning, but these two plugins alone can give great results if the music itself is not too complex and the score not too dense.

Andy2000
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Date Joined Jan 2005
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Posted 12/11/2014 3:15 AM (GMT -6)

Thanks, Skjalg, I'll have a play. I don't mind fine tuning, just looking to be as consistent and precise as I can be

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Charles Lawrence
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Posted 12/11/2014 9:35 AM (GMT -6)

Andy2000 said...

Harpsi said...
In earlier versions you could edit the instrument.txt file, but that is no longer an option.

What changed, out of interest?

This subject has been discussed on this forum several times before. As Mike says, starting with F2012, using various text files to define the instruments used by Finale has been superseded with a database paradigm. Just as you could change instrument names in the text files, you can also change instrument names in the SQLite database, but you will have to have some relational database skills. It is not for the uninitiated, and certainly not intended to be done within Finale, since no GUI or editing mechanism is provided by MM.

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Skjalg
Accordion man

Date Joined Nov 2000
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Posted 12/11/2014 9:52 AM (GMT -6)

The Finalescript is an easy one, and once written, it is globally accessible.
I use the Setup Wizard and prefer Norwegian instrument names. And the script goes:

search "Accordion" replace with "Trekkspill"
search "Violin" replace with "Fiolin"
search "Timpani" replace with "Pauker"

etc

Andy2000
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Date Joined Jan 2005
Total Posts : 125

Posted 12/12/2014 8:04 AM (GMT -6)

Thanks for all your help, everyone! Hairpins still bug me!

Andrew Griffiths,
Musical Director, Pianist, Composer
www.andrew-griffiths.co.uk
Twitter:@MusicalGriff

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Ronwass
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Posted 12/12/2014 5:48 PM (GMT -6)

How do you say Bandoneon in Norwegian?

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Skjalg
Accordion man

Date Joined Nov 2000
Total Posts : 927

Posted 12/12/2014 6:16 PM (GMT -6)

Nothing exotic, I'm afraid: Bandoneon

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