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Michael Mortilla
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   Posted 8/17/2016 5:24 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Seems a little convoluted. I'll try it and see how it works...

After implementing the instructions, this does work quite easily. I still have to test sync but that should be very easy to do. The score in Finale 25 does, in fact scroll. If sync is good (and why shouldn't it be?) then this could be a nice way of integrating additional audio to a F25 document using the DAW. I suspect it takes a bunch of the load off F25 in terms of movie sync. Still have lots to figure out here but so far, so good.


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Michael Mortilla
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   Posted 8/17/2016 6:47 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I opened a current film project in DP, exported an SMF and imported it to F25.

I followed the instructions (image in earlier post) and it seemed like it was going to work, but there are problems.

1 - There is no sound. The instruments are not playing back from the Finale file, only sound that I have on in Digital Performer are sounding. If I turn those off, the Finale file does not sound at all.

2 - If I click and hit the space bar in F25, the score does playback, so the settings for playback are correct in F25.

3 - After a few passes where the score scrolls (and, BTW, it appears to have accurate timing so far) the connection between DP and Finale is lost. Hitting the PLAY control in DP does not even scroll in F25 any longer. The only fix for this is to quit Finale and start again.

4 - Frankly, if there is not a solution to this it's really a deal breaker for me. It's great that those clever programmers have figured a way to get movies to not have to be a concern in Finale, but in doing so, it appears that movies CANNOT be used in F25 and that is really unfortunate. 90% of the work I do in Finale is to picture. Yes, I can go back to F2014.5 and work that way, abut I am no appreciating the feature being crippled and hope MM can fix this and fast. A lot of people here in LA use Finale for scoring to picture. They will not take it lightly if that feature is simply swept under the rug like this. It's really quite insulting on a professional level.

Anyone?


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   Posted 8/18/2016 4:11 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Michael Mortilla said...
4 - Frankly, if there is not a solution to this it's really a deal breaker for me. It's great that those clever programmers have figured a way to get movies to not have to be a concern in Finale, but in doing so, it appears that movies CANNOT be used in F25 and that is really unfortunate. 90% of the work I do in Finale is to picture. Yes, I can go back to F2014.5 and work that way, abut I am no appreciating the feature being crippled and hope MM can fix this and fast. A lot of people here in LA use Finale for scoring to picture. They will not take it lightly if that feature is simply swept under the rug like this. It's really quite insulting on a professional level.

I'd try opening a Support ticket and see if MM can confirm whether it's just a question of settings, or if it's an actual problem with Finale.

I did raise the issue of film work in the beta-testing, as I know there was fury at problems with the Movie window in previous versions, so I would be very surprised if MM's new method didn't actually work. MM does use film-score composers heavily in its marketing.

FWIW, I got ReWire working with Logic, and Finale played its samples perfectly when triggered by Logic. Admittedly, it's not an area I have much expertise in, so don't know if it should do everything it's supposed to.


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Michael Mortilla
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   Posted 8/18/2016 10:56 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks for checking Wiggy. I'll keep trying different settings and make sure Rewire is up to date. That could be the issue and it didn't occur to me to check that software for updates. I haven't needed it in quite a while. Fingers crossed! If that doesn't work I'll call or email MM. It was very nice of you to check. :) I owe you. Fermata Collins!


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