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   Posted 10/17/2006 8:24 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
In F7 can you turn off the Auto program update and if yes how?  While at work my internet is very slow and doesn't connect well with the update program. So everytime I open F7 it take s what seems forever to open.
I've looked in Program options and knowledge base but don't see anything.
 
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   Posted 10/19/2006 7:07 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Does this option default to "ON" or "OFF"? I hope the latter, for several reaons:

1) Software which is not overtly Internet-related (eg browsers, email clients, etc) should not attempt to connect without explicit user intervention (eg, choosing a "Check for Updates" or "Authorize This Installation" option) - it's both a security issue, and one of plain "good manners".

2) Most versions of Finale in recent years have only received a few updates, ever - in the case of 2003, just one ("a"); 2005, two ("b"). OK, so 2006 went all the way to "c" (three updates), and "d" on the Mac. Moreover, the window for updates is limited to about one year, which is MM's product life cycle. Having an option that checks the MM website every time the software is run, forever, seems to be way over the top.

3) Following from the second point, anyone running Finale 2006 is still "checking for updates", even though 2007 is out, and we all know there never will be any more. Why? Some software companies (obviously not MM!?!) could use such an auto-connect "update check" to enforce a maximum lifetime for a given software release: imagine if, one day, you tried to run Finale 2006, it responded by telling you that since Finale 2009 was now available, it would not longer run, and you were going to have to upgrade.

Like I said, obviously MM would not do this, but other software companies do just this sort of thing, right now.

Non-Internet software should never connect to the Internet without an explicit user intervention, and then only with their informed permission.

Brian


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   Posted 10/19/2006 9:01 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
bassbone said...
In F7 can you turn off the Auto program update and if yes how? While at work my internet is very slow and doesn't connect well with the update program. So everytime I open F7 it take s what seems forever to open.

I've looked in Program options and knowledge base but don't see anything.



Thanks in Advance,

Earl


just look up "update" in the help file... it's all there.
it seems that you MUST click on the auto update to have access to its options.


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   Posted 10/20/2006 6:35 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ebony Ivory said...
OK, so 2006 went all the way to "c" (three updates), and "d" on the Mac. Moreover, the window for updates is limited to about one year, which is MM's product life cycle. Having an option that checks the MM website every time the software is run, forever, seems to be way over the top.

3) Following from the second point, anyone running Finale 2006 is still "checking for updates", even though 2007 is out, and we all know there never will be any more. Why?

You can turn it off in "Help | Check for Finale updates... | Settings".


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   Posted 10/20/2006 7:32 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Nickie Fønshauge said...
You can turn it off in "Help | Check for Finale updates... | Settings".

My point was that you should need to turn it on in "Help | Check for Finale updates... | Settings": by default, software should not access the Internet without explicit and informed user intervention.

Brian


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   Posted 10/20/2006 10:34 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
you are give that option when you install Finale.
the very first time it connects to the internet to register to make sure you are using a legally purchased copy.
there's a pop-up that asks if you want Finale to continue connecting at regular intervals or not.
I guess you just have to pay attention when installing the program.


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   Posted 10/20/2006 12:06 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
QcCowboy said...
you are give that option when you install Finale.
the very first time it connects to the internet to register to make sure you are using a legally purchased copy.
there's a pop-up that asks if you want Finale to continue connecting at regular intervals or not.
I guess you just have to pay attention when installing the program.

Certainly with 2005, I had to explicitly choose a "Register" or "Authorize" function in order to activate the software and remove my 30-day limit, and when that popped up, I was given the chance to do this either on-line or via a phone call. Are you saying that in 2006/2007, additional contacts to the Internet are made by Finale, even during the install process?

Brian


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   Posted 10/20/2006 12:22 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
during installation of Finale 2006 and 2007 you are offered the choice of registering your copy of Finale via internet.
at that time you may also choose to not automatically search for future updates, or select the frequency of those checks.

there's nothing particularly sinistre about that.


Finale versions: 3.0 -> 2007
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   Posted 10/20/2006 12:31 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
QcCowboy said...
during installation of Finale 2006 and 2007 you are offered the choice of registering your copy of Finale via internet.
at that time you may also choose to not automatically search for future updates, or select the frequency of those checks.

there's nothing particularly sinistre about that.

If that's all it does, then I agree it's not "sinistre". I wasn't sure from your previous posting whether or not the software connected once automatically, before you had the option of saying "yes" or "no" ...

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