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Motet
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  		   Posted 11/20/2016 2:35 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I seem to recall some way of finding measures that don't have enough beats. Does anyone know how? Or did I dream it?

I tried JW Validate but it seemed to hang.

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  		   Posted 11/20/2016 3:23 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
under utilities there's check notation ( I think that's its name) and then "fill with rests", which seems to fill in missing beats.

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Thanks. I tried that, but it just silently does its thing without saying what it did and I don't trust it, especially where there are cues or real whole rests.

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  		   Posted 11/20/2016 12:49 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I got JW Validate to work. One selects "Notes and Music" (not "Rests"). Thanks again to Jari. I hope he hasn't lost interest.

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"Check Region for Durations" works also (under Note, Beam and Rest Editing). It scans the file and gives you the choice of how to resolve the missing entries.

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Thanks. Alas, it's dumb about real whole rests (which I use extensively with cues and fermatas), thinking there are too many or too few beats.

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Motet said...
Thanks. Alas, it's dumb about real whole rests (which I use extensively with cues and fermatas), thinking there are too many or too few beats.


Yeah, that makes sense. I guess we should all be glad that real whole rests seem to work consistently in a wide variety of meters. I suspect that Sibelius and probably Dorico handle them in a different, more legit manner.

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I think the plug-in just needs to recognize them as special. IMHO most of the MM plug-ins need revisiting and fixing or improving. Some of them broke with one Finale revision or other and didn't get tested or fixed.

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  		   Posted 11/21/2016 1:59 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Motet said...
Thanks. Alas, it's dumb about real whole rests (which I use extensively with cues and fermatas), thinking there are too many or too few beats.

I use a measure-centred expression for fermatas on empty measures. But I guess in an ideal world, Finale would handle fermatas properly.

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I use the real whole rest because it automatically breaks a multimeasure rest before and after the measure with the rest. With an expression I couldn't figure out how to break afterward except by setting the measure attribute. I have a file that's a stack of fermatas that can be pasted in, so it's fairly easy to enter them.

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