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Zuill
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| Posted 1/26/2016 11:56 PM (GMT -6) |   | Which commands?
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P.S.: I stopped using Finalescript long ago as it was very unstable and caused a lot of crashing of Finale. However, since they overhauled it (I believe), I think it is more stable. I tend to use Jari's Lua scripts, even though I have no idea how to program them. I have figured out how to modify others' programs, though, for my use. With Finalescript, I often found that some operations would hang up. I tried to add delay commands to give Finale extra time to process the commands, but realized that every time I ran a script, it would lock up in a different place. To me, that is too finicky. It was easier to do things manually, rather than fuss with scripts.
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Davidmorehead
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| Posted 1/27/2016 8:46 AM (GMT -6) | | Zuill said...
Which commands?
Zuill
P.S.: I stopped using Finalescript long ago as it was very unstable and caused a lot of crashing of Finale. However, since they overhauled it (I believe), I think it is more stable. I tend to use Jari's Lua scripts, even though I have no idea how to program them. I have figured out how to modify others' programs, though, for my use. With Finalescript, I often found that some operations would hang up. I tried to add delay commands to give Finale extra time to process the commands, but realized that every time I ran a script, it would lock up in a different place. To me, that is too finicky. It was easier to do things manually, rather than fuss with scripts.
OK. Thanks for the info. I thought I was doing something wrong. It was hanging on me too even after I would copy a command directly from the help file.
Here is the last version of the script I did before I gave up.
menu item "copy"
Select Staff 13
menu item "paste"
move layer 1 to layer 4
plug-in "single pitch"
type "G5"
Press "OK"
menu item "notesize"
type "75"
Press "OK"
menu item "Utilities/Stem direction/Up"
menu item "Utilities/Change/Ties"
click "tie direction"
Select radio button "over"
Press "OK"
plug-in "move rests"
near "move rests" type 7
Press "OK"
All I want to do be able to copy the rhythm of any staff (whoever has the lead line) to a staff not being used in the score (an extra staff below the drum part) and then place the rhythms in layer 4. Then, I will show current layer only and copy that into layer 4 of the drum part. I want to be able to give the drummer a simplified part with just rhythm hits but still get proper playback of the notes I have entered into the drum part. I go tit to work in 2010 when I was using Windows 7. Now I have 2015.5 and Windows 10 and it doesn't work anymore.
Thanks for your help with this. I really wish Finale had a plug-in to do this.
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 1/27/2016 8:59 AM (GMT -6) | | |
Unfortunately, you cannot just copy the contents of a pre-F2012 Finalescript file and paste it into a post F2011 Finalescript file. You must re-enter it. Ever since F2012, Finalescript is no longer a text file, but an XML file. The copy/paste will not form the underlying XML correctly. Instead of each source line being formed into its own destination line, all the source lines are concatenated into one long string for the destination. Finalescript cannot handle this. If you are proficient with editing XML, you can fix the issue without re-entering the source in a new script file, but it is usually easier to just re-enter it.
I have fixed the malformed XML in the attached XML. It ran to completion when I tried it. Download it and place it in the proper F2014.5 directory located here: "C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\MakeMusic\Finale 2014.5\Finalescript".
Hope this helps.
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gogreen
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| Posted 1/27/2016 9:23 AM (GMT -6) | | I'm having a similar problem with Finale 2014.5. I routinely use a script to restore my background color, which hasn't kept my preference since about Finale 2007 and still doesn't in Finale 2015.5. In Finale 2011, I used this script:
Menu item “program options”
list “palettes and backgrounds”
click radio “solid color” near “Manuscript Texture”
click OK
In Finale 2014, I used this one:
menu item “Preferences”
highlight “Palettes and Backgrounds”
click “Palettes and Background”
click radio “solid color” near “Manuscript Texture”
button ok
The 2014 script that worked in Finale 2014 no longer works in Finale 2014.5. It hangs after Preferences appear. I've tried different syntax changes, but I can't get this to work again. Any suggestions?
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 1/27/2016 10:37 AM (GMT -6) | | |
gogreen,
Your script took longer to debug. Some of the commands are different in F2014.5.
Attached is the XML. Place it in the proper directory here: "C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\MakeMusic\Finale 2014.5\Finalescript".
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gogreen
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| Posted 1/27/2016 11:16 AM (GMT -6) | | Thank you, Charles. Windows isn't offering a way to copy the file. What am I doing wrong? Thanks again.
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 1/27/2016 12:08 PM (GMT -6) | | |
My W10, using IE as my browser, gives me a right click pop-up menu with "Save Target As...". That's what I do. You might be using Firefox/Chrome, where you would use "Save Link As...". Should work too.
Zuill's idea of left clicking and opening the XML in IE/Firefox/Chrome, then saving will also work.
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 1/27/2016 12:11 PM (GMT -6) | |
Davidmorehead said...
Did Makemusic let everyone know this in the new help file? If they did, I never saw it. No, not that I am aware of. I found out through the college of hard knocks, i.e. looking at the XML and seeing what a mess it was.
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| Posted 1/27/2016 12:16 PM (GMT -6) | | Working now just fine. Thanks, Zuill and Charles.
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 1/27/2016 3:35 PM (GMT -6) | |
Motet said...
Charles Lawrence said...
Unfortunately, you cannot just copy the contents of a pre-F2012 Finalescript file and paste it into a post F2011 Finalescript. You must re-enter it. Ridiculous!
I trust you are calling the fact that you cannot successfully copy/paste, ridiculous, and not my assertion! If the copy source script is pure text, as are pre-F2012 Finalescript editor window scripts, or scripts copied from this forum, for example, you will not get a successful Finalescript with a paste into a Finalescript editor window that expects underlying XML, such as F2012 and beyond, even though it "looks" OK in the editor window. Such is not the case with copying from a F2012 and beyond Finalescript editor into another F2012 and beyond Finalescript editor window. The underlying XML is intact and interpretable by the Finalescript engine.
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 1/27/2016 6:21 PM (GMT -6) | |
Motet said...Yes, I was calling the fact ridiculous. But can't you open and old script in F2011, copy the source to the clipboard, then create a new script in F2014 and paste from the clipboard, just as if you had typed it in? Why wouldn't that work?
Sorry,  I stand corrected. It will work OK. But you cannot just copy the lines of a script from this forum and paste them into a new post-F2011 Finalescript editor window. You would think that would work too, but it doesn't. You can also copy the contents of a F2011 <scriptname>.txt file and paste it into a post-F2011 Finalescript editor window, but there will be some extraneous lines preceding the actual script that will need to be removed. It should be fairly obvious which lines to remove.
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 1/27/2016 6:26 PM (GMT -6) | |
Davidmorehead said...
Zuill said...
For what David is trying to do, I find Jari's JW Change plugin does a much better job. It does most if not all of what is needed. You can then memorize all the steps into one item after doing them all one at a time initially.
Zuill I downloaded and tried the plug-in. I can get it to do most of what I want but I can't figure out how to combine all the steps and then save them as a sequence to do all the commands at once. As far as I can tell, it is not working correctly in 2014.5. I am using v1.03.
I don't have time right now to experiment, but I will try it later tonight. The sequence editor of JW Change is not very intuitive or user friendly, but it does work. I have done it before. Maybe someone with experience will chime in. Maybe even JW.
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gogreen
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| Posted 1/27/2016 6:32 PM (GMT -6) | | Somebody said...
It will work OK. But you cannot just copy the lines of a script from this forum and paste them into a new post-F2011 Finalescript editor window. You would think that would work too, but it doesn't. You can also copy the contents of a F2011 <scriptname>.txt file and paste it into a post-F2011 Finalescript editor window...
Finalescript does not allow copy or paste.
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 1/27/2016 8:58 PM (GMT -6) | |
Motet said...It does for me. Problems copying and pasting a script from the forum are likely due to the copied text being HTML. If you first paste it into Notepad and then copy and paste from that, it should work. (Ideally the Finalescript editor should behave like Notepad and paste as plain text, but it sounds like maybe it doesn't.) If you're having trouble, Arthur, you might try the Notepad trick as well. Relieved to hear that copy and paste from F2011 to F2014 works. I will do that rather than fooling with XML.
By pasting the forum text into a Hex editor, I have verified that there are no HTML tags in the text copied from the forum or any other characters to set it apart from plain text. It is just plain text with 0D 0A hex bytes, CR LF, to separate the lines. It appears, however, that you are on to something. If you paste into Notepad first, I use Notepad++, then copy again from Notepad and paste into the Finalescript editor, then everything will be OK. Without this extra copy/paste step, you definitely will get a script that looks OK in the editor, but will not run.
If you copy from F2011 and paste to F2014, be aware of the extraneous characters I spoke of before.
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