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Locksley
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  		   Posted 10/15/2002 11:00 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I need to write choral music, and all the notes must be independent or a single note, How can I avoid the eight grouping 2 by 2 on 4/4 time signature, for example?

Thanks and sorry if my english is not good enough for you, it's not my native language

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  		   Posted 10/15/2002 11:44 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Locksley:

Use the time signature tool and create a time signature of 8/8. This will make your eighth notes individually flagged.

If you've already put the music in the score, select mass mover and hit ctrl-A. Then go to Mass Mover (Mass Edit in Finale 2003)> Rebeam> Rebeam to Time Signature and select 8/8 as the time signature, then click OK.

If you've already put the music in lyrics in the score, select mass mover and hit ctrl-A. Then go to Mass Mover (Mass Edit in Finale 2003)> Rebeam> Rebeam to Lyrics. Select which lyrics you want and click OK.

Al

PS: I have to editorialize here... I realize that vocal music traditionally uses individually flagged eighth and sixteenth notes. However, as an accompanist of many years' experience, I consider that this makes the music far more difficult to read. I understand that it helps the singers to see where the syllables are, but this advantage is more than offset by the fact that the many flags tend to obscure the beat. IMO, the practice should not be used in this day and age.

Only my 2¢, though.


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  		   Posted 10/15/2002 3:02 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Regarding individually flagged notes for vocal parts, I've accompanied singers who prefer beams. Also: "Beaming of notes associated with a lyric now follows standard notational practice" (Essential Dictionary of Music Notation).

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  		   Posted 10/15/2002 4:00 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
And Heussenstamm agrees, too.
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  		   Posted 10/17/2002 1:50 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ultimately depends on the music itself. From a singer's perspective, I gravitate towards beaming when the lyrics are in my native language and individually flagged eighths and sixteenths when in a foreign (to me) language. Italian also presents special problems because of the practice of eliding ?? elision? more than one syllable (usually two vowels) on a single note.
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  		   Posted 10/18/2002 4:40 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
There is a good thing under the Mass Edit Menu, Utilities, Beam to Lyrics. Do this after you have entered your lyrics and it works pretty well.

You can also hit the Options button within the Time Signature Dialogue Box and choose to display 4/4 while you change your real time signature to something like 8/8.
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  		   Posted 10/19/2002 2:00 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think that I express myself bad :-(
An example. I have a 6/8 time signature with 6 eights. Ok. I don't want the eights to be grouped 3 by 3, i mean, all the eights must be independent. Of course the same problem with sixteenth, etc...

How can I do that?
I followed your steps but nothing changes.

thanks again (this should be easier if I could speak spanish...)
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  		   Posted 10/19/2002 6:29 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
At last I find the solution :-) Thanks for your help.

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