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Glenn Pickett
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| Posted 1/26/2004 1:23 AM (GMT -6) |   | Well, I've been working at this a while now... trying to get MIDI in 2004 running.
No luck though, so I thought I would see if anyone here knows what i'm not doing.
I have a Edirol UM-2 MIDI Interface which I had working well in Classic mode. But now with 2004 and Core MIDI, I can't get a USB presence light on it... thus no interface, thus no MIDI, thus my query. (I'm using a G-4 Powerbook, 17' screen)
I've done the scan routine from the Apple Audio-MIDI software. It doesn't seem to be able to "see" my interface.
Does anyone have any insight?
Thanks,
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typhon
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| Posted 1/26/2004 2:50 AM (GMT -6) | | i had the same problem with the edirol um-1. i went to the edirol site and downloaded the most recent driver and installed it. then i opened finale, went to midi setup, then to audio midi setup button at the bottom of the midi setup box. i confirmed that my interface was present. tested it. then, went back to finale midi setup and chose it in the pulldown menus for input and output devices. clicked ok and then played the current piece that i was working on.
hope this helps. | | Back to Top | |
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Tempest
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| Posted 1/26/2004 10:09 AM (GMT -6) | | If you had the UM2 working in Classic mode, you have the OS9 drivers for it installed. Uninstall the old drivers, then install the OSX drivers. Then OSX's CoreAudio should be able to find it and show up in Finale.
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Glenn Pickett
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| Posted 1/26/2004 11:11 AM (GMT -6) | | Thank you both for your help.
I installed the UM550USBDriver for OSX from Edirol. It was automatically installed in the "reciepts" folder of my Library Folder.
I uninstalled the driver for os9 from the extensions folder. I've booted and rebooted numerous times.
Still, no USB light... the interface doesn't show up when I "rescan MIDI" in the Apple Audio-MIDI software.
Any other ideas?
Thank you. | | Back to Top | |
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dtoub
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| Posted 1/26/2004 1:15 PM (GMT -6) | | | I'm having the EXACT same issues with a USB FastLane MIDI interface from MOTU, even with the latest drivers. No lights, not seen in Audio MIDI setup, not seen by Finale, not even showing up in System Profiler. Any thoughts? It would not seem to be a driver issue. I'm running OS 10.3.2. | | Back to Top | |
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Gordon
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| Posted 1/26/2004 1:24 PM (GMT -6) | | I use an Edirol UA-20 and by using the latest OSX downloaded driver instead of the drivers that came with the UA-20, I was able to setup my midi to work quite well. Only problem is stuttering when playing back complex pieces in 2004.
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Glenn Pickett
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| Posted 1/26/2004 2:40 PM (GMT -6) | | Gordon- I have downloaded and installed the latest driver. I've written Tech Support to see if they can come up with anything. Thanks though.
dtoub- Is the MOTU interface supposed to work for OSX? I know that a lot of their stuff is still OS9 oriented.
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Glenn Pickett
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| Posted 1/26/2004 2:47 PM (GMT -6) | | Dtoub- Thanks for the insight on the System Profiler... mine is not showing up either.
Gordon- Does your driver show up on the system profiler? May ask you where the driver is installed on your computer?
Thank you again for the help and insight.
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dtoub
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| Posted 1/27/2004 5:53 AM (GMT -6) | | | Unfortunately, my FastLane interface is not at all detected-only an IAC Driver is depicted, which I believe is installed as part of the OS. The driver has been uninstalled and reinstalled as per MOTU's instructions, but still nothing shows up. In addition, if I look at the driver in the Extensions portion of System Profiler, it is clearly present, but not loading with the interface plugged in to the USB port. FastLane is OS X-compatible, so I'm baffled and now waiting for MOTU tech support's insight again. | | Back to Top | |
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Glenn Pickett
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| Posted 1/27/2004 2:20 PM (GMT -6) | | Brian- I get no greyed out icon, no icon at all. I know that the cables work because I can get it working in classic.
When I test with iit the Apple AudioMIDI software to see if i can find it, I do it after a reboot just to make absolutely sure that classic is not running.
Do you or anyone else know where the driver is supposed to be installed? Once again, the Edirol software automatically puts it in the receipts folder of my library folder.
I'm going to write Edirol to see if they can help at all...
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Glenn Pickett
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| Posted 1/28/2004 12:31 PM (GMT -6) | | beckster-
You did a complete reinstall of the OS?
Were your symptoms similar to mine? I am still waiting to hear back from Edirol.
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klgriff
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| Posted 1/28/2004 10:17 PM (GMT -6) | | | I am operating Panther on a G4 using a Kawai digital piano and the MOTU Fastlane midi. The test plays a wild sound when I click on the icon, but I can't get Finale to hear the piano in Hyperscribe or Speedy Entry. MOTU does not show an OS X driver. Any suggestions? | | Back to Top | |
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klgriff
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| Posted 1/28/2004 10:51 PM (GMT -6) | | | I decided to trash all of my connections as listed in the MIDI Setup and SELECT NEW DEVICE in all menus -- and voila! IT WORKED! Finally, using my MIDI for input in OS X. | | Back to Top | |
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peerlessnerd
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| Posted 1/29/2004 12:43 AM (GMT -6) | | I think my Midisport 2X2 was one of the very first USB interfaces. Bought it years ago, and silly me, I bought it before they'd even finished the drivers and had to wait weeks to be up and running.
Anyway, Coremidi couldn't see my interface either. I downloaded the newest driver (not even 5 weeks old) and got things working fine, but it took a couple reboots for everything to start talking to each other. | | Back to Top | |
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primas
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| Posted 1/29/2004 1:56 PM (GMT -6) | | I haved an oxygen 8 usb ed to a G4 and don't see even a remote chance of getting it through to 2004. Where does one even begin?
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Glenn Pickett
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| Posted 1/29/2004 2:03 PM (GMT -6) | | I don't think that this is a Finale problem. It's a MAC-MIDI-Driver problem.
It has something to do with the MIDI drivers being installed correctly so that the Apple MIDI Core can see them.
I'm still waiting to hear from Edirol regarding the installation of my drivers. In the meantime, I'm writing away in Classic. Who would have thought classic would be easier to configure than OSX?
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Glenn Pickett
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| Posted 1/30/2004 10:29 AM (GMT -6) | | Dear Thierry,
Thank you so much for your response. Yes, I reinstalled the OS-9 stuff so that i could write.
I've tried installing the OS-X driver in a number of ways. But no, I wasn't running classic when I installed them. I've been pretty careful also about not having the UM-2 connected physically to the computer during the install of the OS-X drivers.
I wrote Edirol on Tuesday, but still haven't heard back. Perhaps you can help me with this...
Where does the driver go in OSX when installed properly on your in-house computer? My understanding is that it should be in the Library folder >>> Audio Folder>>>> MIDI Drivers folder. Is that right?
Thanks,
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Clark
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| Posted 1/30/2004 2:16 PM (GMT -6) | | Haven't read all the replies to this one, so maybe someone has already mentioned this. I was having a similar problem and the MM tech people said TURN OFF the Classic environment when running Finale. Evidently, when it's running in the background it confounds Core MIDI.
Good luck,
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Glenn Pickett
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| Posted 2/5/2004 9:06 PM (GMT -6) | | Good news!
It was an OSX - Edirol Driver problem, not Finale.
As written above, these drivers cannot be installed while the device they support is plugged into a USB port. It causes problems. This must have been what I did originally.
Therefore, I had to remove the driver from System/Library/Extensions. That was not an easy task. The file was controlled or owned by "root" part of the UNIX core underneath everything. I had to use "Terminal," a seldom used program that is to OSX what DOS is to Windows to remove the bad drivers. Fortunately, we have someone on our staff who knew the UNIX commands (or knew where to find them on the Web) to remove the drivers.
Once they were removed, I rebooted, redownloaded the software from Edirol, reinstalled and then rebooted and voila! MIDI with OSX.
Thank you all for your help. It took some doing, but I finally got it.
Anyone else had to use "Terminal" out there?
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