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|  MellowD Registered Member
        Date Joined Sep 2009 Total Posts : 3 | Posted 9/17/2009 2:46 PM (GMT -6) |   | I used to use SmartMusic as a pass-off system or playing test system for my 6-8th grade band students (using their Band method book), just like I have read on your website. Unfortunately, my students figured out how to CHEAT using SmartMusic while taking their playing tests, so I can no longer use SmartMusic for playing tests. They did it in a couple of different ways:
1. Before I had them actually record themselves playing their music, they held the microphone up to the computer speaker and figured out that it would pick up the melody line playing and they could get 100% on each line. They usually played a 'wrong' note or two while they did this, so they would get different scores and not always 100%, so it wasn't so obvious that they were cheating.
2. After figuring out they were cheating, I next told them that they weren't allowed to have the melody line playing (it says if they do on the info that includes their score), and that they had to record themselves playing each line. So, they started to play their music at home or in school practice rooms and have their friends come in and play the music for them, or just have one or two people in the section play the tests and save the results in different student's folders on the computer using their names/passwords.
At this point, I became so frustrated and disappointed, that I just quit using SmartMusic for this purpose and instead of using it every day in Band, we now only use it once a year for Solo contest.
Has anyone else had a problem with students cheating using SmartMusic? If you think your students aren't cheating, you might want to think again! If mine figured it out, yours might too. | Back to Top | |
 |  Travis Shepard SmartMusic Support

       Date Joined Mar 2009 Total Posts : 148 | Posted 9/18/2009 8:15 AM (GMT -6) |   | MellowD
When I was teaching, I always found it disappointing when students felt it was easier to break the rules than do the work, so I can sympathize with your frustration.
Both of those methods that you listed would only be possible if you are not using the SmartMusic Gradebook. If you are simply having the students open a piece, press Record and then save the MP3 somewhere, then both of those methods are completely possible for students to do.
However, if you use the SmartMusic Gradebook to send assignments to students, they can't use these methods to cheat. Here's why, by the methods you listed above:
1. When you send assignments to students via Gradebook, you specify the settings students must use, including whether or not they can have the solo line playing. If they change the settings, SmartMusic shows them an error message indicating that they cannot submit the assignment. They have the option to Practice with those settings (useful if they need to slow something down, etc.) or Reset the assignment back to your settings before they can perform and submit it.
2. When you use the SmartMusic Gradebook, each student enrolls for your class with their own email address and password. In order to receive and complete assignments, they login with this email address and password. Once they complete an assignment and submit it, the recording of the assignment is sent to you and removed from the local computer. This makes it impossible for students to save the same recording to multiple locations, as you described.
In short, using the SmartMusic Gradebook will solve both of the problems you had with students trying to cheat. Thanks,
Travis Shepard
SmartMusic Customer Support
MakeMusic, Inc.
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 |  MellowD Registered Member
        Date Joined Sep 2009 Total Posts : 3 | Posted 9/18/2009 9:07 AM (GMT -6) |   | Thanks for your reply. You're right, I didn't use SmartMusic Gradebook, but there are reasons why I didn't.
Many of my students couldn't have SmartMusic at home because their parents wouldn't pay the $30 fee (and neither would the school) and also a lot of them didn't have internet at home (this was a small rural community and many of them had terrible connections out in the country and had to pay higher prices for internet to work way out there. So I put computers in 4 rooms in the Band area (Practice rooms and my office), and I only had internet access in my office, on one computer. The school refused to put internet access in the other rooms when they could just save their info. right on the computer or an external memory device. It just wasn't possible to have the students access e-mail or internet, so we had to save their assignments either on a disk or directly on the computer.
It was a great practice tool and a great idea, and if the students had been hard-working and honest, it would have worked out. Unfortunately, that didn't happen. So now we just have playing tests in front of everyone once a week, the old traditional way. It makes them accountable to themselves and their peers. It also gets them used to playing alone in front of others, which helps their stage fright at solo contest. It also meets one of the requirements for the National Standards for Arts Education: "Students will play alone and with others." I can also grade them on dynamics and articulation, which SmartMusic doesn't do. Besides, I had to grade the percussionists in person anyway. Their assessment didn't work very well for them. It didn't grade their sticking, rolls, flams, etc. quite right.
So I think I will continue to use SmartMusic as a practice tool but not as an assessment tool for now.
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 |  alcycler Registered Member
        Date Joined Sep 2009 Total Posts : 6 | Posted 9/19/2009 7:44 AM (GMT -6) |   | MelloD,
If your computers have a wireless card in them, install a wireless router on your office computer. This would let all of the computers have internet access.
If you do install a wireless router, make sure a password is set on the router. I have this system in my school and it works great. | Back to Top | |
  |  dubaifox Registered Member
        Date Joined Nov 2004 Total Posts : 33 | Posted 10/15/2009 1:13 AM (GMT -6) |   | I have the same problems with kids cheating.
I am very encouraged about the Gradebook options. This sounds really excellent. Can you give me more info on how to set it up??
Paul Hopkins American School of Dubai UAE | Back to Top | |
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