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NickG
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Posted 12/26/2016 12:01 PM (GMT -6)

Seems that the "Remove Slashed Grace note" doesn't work in Finale 25.

NickG

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Dr. Wiggy
Early music: modern methods

Date Joined Jun 2006
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Posted 12/26/2016 12:18 PM (GMT -6)

The plug-in? It seems to work for me. What are your steps?

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NickG
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Posted 12/26/2016 12:37 PM (GMT -6)

I select the region were the grace note is then use the invoke the plug-in. No errors, just not working(for me).

Dr. Wiggy
Early music: modern methods

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Posted 12/26/2016 12:47 PM (GMT -6)

Do you have "Always Slash Grace Notes" ON in Doc Options > Grace Notes? If that is on, then yes, they stay slashed.

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NickG
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Posted 12/26/2016 12:57 PM (GMT -6)

That was it...Thanks much.

Motet
Isorhythmic

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Posted 12/26/2016 1:17 PM (GMT -6)

With that option turned off, a grace note can be slashed on an individual basis in Speedy Entry with the backquote ` character. I don't know if Simple entry can do that. I suppose in something like Mozart you may need both varieties.

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Post Edited (Motet) : 12/26/2016 1:12:51 PM (GMT-6)

Andreo Basisto
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Posted 12/26/2016 7:08 PM (GMT -6)

Goodness me! I never knew that and have been wondering for years what I would do if I came across a piece with both slashed and unslashed grace notes. Many thanks Motet! Good to know that I've learnt something new in the last week of this Forum..... (By the way, if anyone is wondering where the 'backquote character" is on the computer keyboard, on mine it's at top left, under the Esc key. It's the only key with 3 characters on it and I can't say I've ever used any of them until just now.)

Andreo Basisto

Finale 3.1, 98, 2000, 2011b

Win 10 (64 bit)

Motet
Isorhythmic

Date Joined Dec 2002
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Posted 12/26/2016 7:15 PM (GMT -6)

On my keyboard, the tilde ~ is the shift of backquote (or "accent grave" or "open single quote"). If your key has three characters, how do you get at the third?

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David Ward
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Posted 12/27/2016 2:32 AM (GMT -6)

Motet said...
… … If your key has three characters, how do you get at the third?

On a Mac with the ‘Option’ key.

(FWIW on my UK keyboard the grave accent ` is next to the left shift key [which is shorter than on the US keyboard], but there are two keys with three characters in the number row at the top - one with 2, @, € and the other with 3, £, #. The option key will produce all sorts of extra characters with the other keys too, but they are not shown on the keys themselves.)

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Post Edited (David Ward) : 12/27/2016 2:04:05 AM (GMT-6)

David Ward
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Posted 12/27/2016 5:05 AM (GMT -6)

Andreo Basisto said...
Goodness me! I never knew that and have been wondering for years what I would do if I came across a piece with both slashed and unslashed grace notes. Many thanks Motet! Good to know that I've learnt something new in the last week of this Forum.....

Me too. What a wonderful source of unexpected tips this forum has been over the years. Maybe we will be able to manage something similar between us at www.finaleforum.com/. I wonder where the ever-helpful Dr Wiggy might be going? He does already contribute to OCTO's notat.io/, but that is specifically about notation and directly related matters, rather than about Finale and its many hidden abilities (and irritating quirks), as revealed on this forum.

Andreo Basisto
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Posted 12/27/2016 5:10 AM (GMT -6)

Going off-topic slightly from grace notes: 1) a normal key press gives me ` 2) with shift, I get ¬ 3) with AltGr or Ctr-Alt, I get ¦ So now we know!

Andreo Basisto

Finale 3.1, 98, 2000, 2011b

Win 10 (64 bit)

MikeHalloran
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Posted 12/27/2016 9:34 AM (GMT -6)

It's been like this on the Mac for over 30 years.

In Preferences, you can show the keyboard viewer in your toolbar. Click on it and you can see every character in every font. Besides regular and Shift, there's Option, Command-Option and Shift-Option characters for many fonts.

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