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Michel R. E.
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| Posted 10/11/2007 9:17 PM (GMT -6) |   | it's actually quite simple:
HumanPlayback, when used to play your Finale file, adds temporary MIDI data to the file. Once playback is finished, it wipes the MIDI data clean and your file reverts to its pre-playback condition.
Therefore, Finale "sees" a change to the state of your file and offers to save it.
A simple experiment is to open a previously saved file, insert a marking of some sort, then immediately erase that marking. Finale will ask if you want to save when you exit.
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Michel R. E.
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| Posted 10/11/2007 11:38 PM (GMT -6) | | well, I don't think of it as a "bug".
the file DOES change if you insert an item then delete it.
if, on the other hand, you insert an item and then Ctrl+Z (that's undo, right?.. anyways, whichever is the undo command), you will NOT get the option to resave the file. Undoing appears to be different from erasing. I think Finale treats an undo as returning to a previous state. While erasing an item is seen as advancing in the edit process - even if it's an item that's removed. I think I'd rather have the extra little reminder to save again than risk closing it without saving and losing changes I made.
Finale versions: 3.0 -> 2008
currently installed: version 3.7.1 (under Win 3.11), 2006c, 2007c, 2008
Full GPO, Jazz and Big Band
Win XP
Les Éditions du Dos Blanc
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Jim Coull
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| Posted 10/11/2007 11:47 PM (GMT -6) | | "HumanPlayback, when used to play your Finale file, adds temporary MIDI data to the file."
That irritating warning appears even if HP is turned off (and therefore, no MIDI should be added to the file) so I don't think HP is the culprit here.
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Peter West
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| Posted 10/12/2007 12:51 AM (GMT -6) | | Again standard function gets blamed as a bug. Here's the programmer's choice: what gets considered a change? What makes the file need resaving? Simplest answer: anything. Now, if you open a file and do something that causes any change to any of Finale's temp files it asks you to save it. Now, if the programmer had said, "anything that causes a change to the temp files except..." and created an exceptions list, potentially we have room now for all sorts of bugs, unwanted features, disagreements about what should be included and so on.
I just tried this in Pages (Apple's word processor) The same happens: enter text, delete it close file. Dialogue asking to save comes up
Same with Excel
Same with Word
Same with Logic Studio. (opening a file hit play, return to start, close file
Once you start introducing exceptions you open a whole can of worms.
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Bill Reed
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| Posted 10/12/2007 12:05 PM (GMT -6) | | | Actually, this has always happened. It used to be that if you closed immediately after opening, Finale asked if you wanted to Save. So it’s actually better than it used to be | | Back to Top | |
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Tyler
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| Posted 10/13/2007 2:21 PM (GMT -6) | | Ebony Ivory said...
As I said before, yes, it's a bug, but one with very low impact!
Peter and QC's arguments are valid, but I'm inclined to agree this is a bug, as it is "objectionable" behavior, and it probably wasn't part of the design specification. It does affect a lot of people, and aside from annoying or confusing people, it also convinces a lot of them to overwrite their last unique backup (.bak) file, since this is in effect what saving the file twice in the same state does.
That said, I definitely want the ctrl-123 bug fixed before this one! | | Back to Top | |
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