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Mike Rosen
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| Posted 5/12/2016 7:10 PM (GMT -6) |   | I want a shape expression like the picture below: two arrows, showing a part split. I did this with the custom line tool, but it took two operations, and the balance was pretty critical. In the shape expression designer, I see no way to put on the arrowheads. I tried the crescendo mentioned in another thread, and I liked it, but my editor doesn't.
Can I do it? Can I constrain the angles so they match?
(I want to do the same thing reversed, but once I get one, I should be able to do the other.)
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Mike Rosen
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 5/13/2016 1:57 PM (GMT -6) | | Using the character from Bravura or November, what control do you have over the shape, other than change the font size? Can you extent the lines, or widen/narrow the angle, etc. These are easily done with the Shape Expression approach.
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Mike Rosen
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 5/13/2016 2:52 PM (GMT -6) | | Mike Rosen said...
Zuill, that looks fine. Can I have some clues as to how you did it?
I have put together a simple document using the Shape Expression approach. This may not be exactly what your editor is looking for, but it shows the versatility of the Shape Expression approach. Expression placement, line thickness, separation angle, and other line parameters can be adjusted. Any conceivable arrowhead can be used.
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Zuill
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| Posted 5/13/2016 3:48 PM (GMT -6) | | I was going to answer Mike and post my file (which was done the same way as yours), but before I did, Mike said he found the font and liked what he found, so there was no need.
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| Posted 5/13/2016 4:50 PM (GMT -6) | | As an example of the goofiness, I was fine with to lines with arrowheads. I thought I would Group them to keep them from separating. That caused an unbelievable disaster once in the document. Sometimes grouping works, sometimes it doesn't You never know.
It is an archaic tool, but still quite useful.
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 5/13/2016 4:58 PM (GMT -6) | |
Zuill said...I was going to answer Mike and post my file (which was done the same way as yours), but before I did, Mike said he found the font and liked what he found, so there was no need. Zuill
There is always a need for showing different means to an end. Mike may be happy with the font character, but others following this thread may find it too limited.
Motet said...
I still don't quite get the paradigm for typing coordinates in the text boxes. When building the shape in my example, I used the text boxes to make the end points of the arrowheaded lines be precise. I used the selection tool to select the line, then clicked on the handle at the end of the line. The coordinates appeared in the text boxes. I simply made them be a nice round number, two decimals. In so doing the vector was precisely defined for both arrows. I made sure to start the arrows when the dynamic coordinate was 0,0. After placing the expression in the document, it is easy to adjust the position and size by dragging the handles that show after double clicking on the shape handle.
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NickG
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| Posted 5/14/2016 5:59 AM (GMT -6) | | For me, I find it more productive to use Illustrator then Shape Designer. - just my opinion.
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