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| Davidmorehead Registered Member
Date Joined May 2000 Total Posts : 2203 | Posted 2/19/2014 9:02 AM (GMT -6) | | I just upgraded to 2014 (from 2010) because I didn't want to get too far behind in the upgrade cycle. If you wait too long it is hard to jump back in and get work done because there are so many new features added with each version. I tried 2012 and it had a show stopping bug. My midi out would keep resetting to none every time I set it. Guess what? The same bug is in 2014! Very sad. I guess I will be using 2010 until Makemusic gets this fixed. In the mean time, I will have to deal with notes sticking on and Finale occasionally shutting down up when I edit a drum part. Time to contact them and request my money back. I really want to help the company and support them but I have to have a program that works. I was going to try the 2014 trial version to check for the midi out resetting bug. I downloaded it a few months ago and opened the program briefly to have a look around. I forgot to check for this problem at that time. Then I got very busy with work and also writing a lot of charts (using 2010) so I didn't have time to thoroughly check 2014. I wish I had tested it more because now I will have to wait until they get around to refunding my money. Makemusic knew about the midi out resetting to none bug. I saw a few threads on it and I also emailed them about it. They said there was no work around for it so I got my money back for 2012. Now I will have to get my money back for 2014. What a shame that they didn't fix this problem.
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| Davidmorehead Registered Member
Date Joined May 2000 Total Posts : 2203 | Posted 2/19/2014 9:21 AM (GMT -6) | | Thanks. I can take the heat. Haaa!!
I have upgraded for many years and I know Finale very well. This isn't user error. If I set my midi out to my Sonic Cell, it goes back to none as soon as I open midi setup again. SAME BUG THAT WAS IN 2012. I got a refund back then and now I will get my money back again. Other people have had this problem too. It isn't just me.
When I found this bug in Finale 2012 and I emailed tech support about it. They told they knew about the problem and then they said there was no solution for this problem at that time. I thought for sure they would have fixed it by 2014. They didn't. What a shame.
Back to 2010. Again.
Finale 2010b Sony Vaio Laptop-Windows 7-Core I7 TGTools Pro Roland Sonic Cell Finale user since 1990 http://DaveMorehead.com http://davidmoreheadphotography.smugmug.com/ https://www.facebook.com/Dave.Morehead Post Edited (Davidmorehead) : 2/20/2014 4:02:22 AM (GMT-6) | Back to Top | |
| Davidmorehead Registered Member
Date Joined May 2000 Total Posts : 2203 | Posted 2/19/2014 9:34 AM (GMT -6) | | Here is the answer I got when I reported this bug two years ago. "There is a known issue in Finale 2012 on certain Windows computers where the device selected for output in the MIDI Setup window is consistently reset on playback. At this time, this issue appears to be limited to computers running the Windows 7 Operating System.
Our development team is aware of the issue and is currently investigating solutions." Looks like they never found a solution.
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| Bill Reed Registered Member
Date Joined Feb 2001 Total Posts : 1203 | Posted 2/19/2014 9:49 AM (GMT -6) | | From other discussion of this bug, my understanding is that despite not displaying correctly, your MIDI configuration will in fact work correctly.
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| La Leyenda Female. Composer. Legend.
Date Joined Oct 2013 Total Posts : 774 | Posted 2/19/2014 9:49 AM (GMT -6) | | |
| Charles Lawrence Registered Member
Date Joined Dec 2009 Total Posts : 3638 | Posted 2/19/2014 10:23 AM (GMT -6) | | No Ms. Leyenda and Davidmorehead,
The MIDI device out bug is merely a cosmetic issue. As Bill and others on this forum, including myself have reported on more than one occasion, even though the MIDI out device gets reset to (None), you should find that actual MIDI out data is correctly routed to the selected device. This is my experience with F2012 on Win7. Have you actually tried it? The bug no longer manifests itself, for me at least, on F2014 on Win7.
"Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!"
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| Zuill "The Troll"
Date Joined Oct 2003 Total Posts : 29077 | Posted 2/19/2014 11:40 AM (GMT -6) | | I don't have the problem either.
Zuill "When all is said and done, more is said than done."
Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed) 2012c, with some bug fixes. 2014 now.
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| Zuill "The Troll"
Date Joined Oct 2003 Total Posts : 29077 | Posted 2/19/2014 12:19 PM (GMT -6) | | Possibly. But I walk softly and carry a BIG stick.
Zuill "When all is said and done, more is said than done."
Finale 2002b, 2003a, 2004b, 2005b, Win XP SP3, 2011b Win 7 64bit, 2012a Bought and Paid For (Hopefully soon 2012b with some of the MAJOR BUGS fixed--well, now with 2012b and some of the bugs are fixed) 2012c, with some bug fixes. 2014 now.
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| Charles Lawrence Registered Member
Date Joined Dec 2009 Total Posts : 3638 | Posted 2/19/2014 1:00 PM (GMT -6) | | Ms. Leyenda,
Being a fanboi, apparently, I must again take exception to your categorically stating that "This bug is not cosmetic only on Windows 8 64bit. It's constant. 1000% certain." I have F2014a running on a Win8.1 64bit platform and do not have the problem. Believe me, I do not for an instant doubt that you are experiencing the problem you state, but it must be a configuration issue for you, and others, and not a bug in the program, because I, and others, are not having the problem on F2014a either on Win7/64 or Win8.1/64. I continue to have the problem on F2012 running on Win7/64, but again for me, it is cosmetic only, in that the MIDI out data is indeed routed to the correct out device, even though the selection shows as (none) if you revisit the MIDI setup dialog after having set the MIDI out device once before. It is still my contention as a professional engineer with over 35 years of computer programming experience in all sorts of programming languages, that if not everyone has the problem, then it cannot, by definition, be a bug in the program, but it must be a configuration issue. I will have nothing further to say on this particular issue.
"Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!"
Dell XPS 600, GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz [Intel64 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 4] (2 processors) 8GB Ram HT Omega Striker 7.1 MSI N430GT 2GB GPU 1TB x 4 internal HD's Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition, (06.01.7600.00) Finale versions: 2011b.r2, 2012c.r13, 2014a.v3535
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| Ebony Ivory On Ebony And Ivory I'll Tinkle All Day Long
Date Joined Dec 2005 Total Posts : 4594 | Posted 2/19/2014 5:38 PM (GMT -6) | | Davidmorehead said...I just upgraded to 2014 (from 2010) because I didn't want to get too far behind in the upgrade cycle. If you wait too long it is hard to jump back in and get work done because there are so many new features added with each version.</div> I tried 2012 and it had a show stopping bug. My midi out would keep resetting to none every time I set it. Guess what? The same bug is in 2014! Very sad. I guess I will be using 2010 until Makemusic gets this fixed. In the mean time, I will have to deal with notes sticking on and Finale occasionally shutting down up when I edit a drum part. Time to contact them and request my money back. I really want to help the company and support them but I have to have a program that works. I was going to try the 2014 trial version to check for the midi out resetting bug. I downloaded it a few months ago and opened the program briefly to have a look around. I forgot to check for this problem at that time. Then I got very busy with work and also writing a lot of charts (using 2010) so I didn't have time to thoroughly check 2014. I wish I had tested it more because now I will have to wait until they get around to refunding my money. Makemusic knew about the midi out resetting to none bug. I saw a few threads on it and I also emailed them about it. They said there was no work around for it so I got my money back for 2012. Now I will have to get my money back for 2014. What a shame that they didn't fix this problem. Hate to mention it again - 'cos you can all read my sig - but Finale 2005 continues to let me write the music I want, and print it, share it, record it, etc ... and the majority of niggles I have (all of which I now know about and how to work round them) have YET to be fixed even in the nine-years-later Finale 2014.
I hang around here in the hope that ONE day these elementary shortcomings will be fixed - but until then, my heart-felt recommendation is that if any given version of Finale does what you need in order to write your music, STICK WITH IT.
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| Davidmorehead Registered Member
Date Joined May 2000 Total Posts : 2203 | Posted 2/20/2014 4:45 AM (GMT -6) | |
ebiggs1 said...Mr. Morehead I don't know how big a turn off the midi thing is for you, as I don't see it either. But the new hairpins and the combine rests features in 2014a are worth the price of admission alone. I wouldn't give up on it too soon. EB
I would love to use 2014 but I can't if it won't retain my midi setting. I need to use my Roland Sonic Cell sound module.
Thankfully, I can combine rests with TGtools pro. I would love smarter hairpins. I hope Makemusic finds a solution to this problem soon.
Finale 2010b Sony Vaio Laptop-Windows 7-Core I7 TGTools Pro Roland Sonic Cell Finale user since 1990 http://DaveMorehead.com http://davidmoreheadphotography.smugmug.com/ https://www.facebook.com/Dave.Morehead | Back to Top | |
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