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Vdrummer
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| Posted 10/15/2003 11:58 PM (GMT -6) |   | I believe Digital Performer handles basic notation in OSX too.
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encephalon
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| Posted 10/16/2003 1:33 AM (GMT -6) | | About the filtering of the word S******* (S i b e l i u s) on this board:
What's up with that? Up till now I thought it was just a childish ploy, but yesterday I needed to do a search to see if any current version of F***** is able to open S i b e l i u s files (S******* can open Finale files). Of course, I could not search for it, and I did not find the answer I needed.
I got to thinking about this, and the more I dwell on it, the more it makes me mad. What kind of company pulls this kind of crap? Who in the company is so immature as to make this kind of policy decision? Don't they realize how it makes them look?
It's not like the word S i b e l i u s is intellectual property, for heaven's sake.
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Tim Rowland
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Date Joined Dec 1998
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| Posted 10/16/2003 7:09 AM (GMT -6) | |
encephalon said...
About the filtering of the word S******* (S i b e l i u s) on this board:
What's up with that? Up till now I thought it was just a childish ploy, but yesterday I needed to do a search to see if any current version of F***** is able to open S i b e l i u s files (S******* can open Finale files). Of course, I could not search for it, and I did not find the answer I needed.
I got to thinking about this, and the more I dwell on it, the more it makes me mad. What kind of company pulls this kind of crap? Who in the company is so immature as to make this kind of policy decision? Don't they realize how it makes them look?
It's not like the word S i b e l i u s is intellectual property, for heaven's sake.
encephalon Speaking as the person who first initiated the compulsary use of S*******  , if you actually change your search parameters to more than a month (try the past year for this forum), you will find postings containing that word from ages ago. Also, if you actually consider the platform call Windows, you'll find many more posts in that forum, even in the last month, contained the Verboden Vord!
Cheers,
Tim
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BMillwood
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|  Posted 10/16/2003 10:04 AM (GMT -6) | | I figure the reason they put asterisks every time you type the word S i b e l i u s is because they figure you'll forget about S i b e l i u s if you can't see the word. (Yeah, that'll work)
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Michael Good
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| Posted 10/16/2003 12:11 PM (GMT -6) | |
encephalon said...
...yesterday I needed to do a search to see if any current version of F***** is able to open Sibelius files (S******* can open Finale files). Of course, I could not search for it, and I did not find the answer I needed.
You can't read Sibelius files directly in Finale because Sibelius, unlike Finale, does not publish their file format. But you can use our Dolet for Sibelius plug-in to save a MusicXML file from Sibelius 2.1, and then use our Dolet for Finale plug-in to read the MusicXML file into Finale.
Dolet for Sibelius runs on both Mac and Windows. Unfortunately Dolet for Finale currently runs on Windows only. We are porting to OS X and will be ready to start beta testing when Finale 2004 ships. In the meantime, we have file translation services available.
There's more information about all of this at:
Best regards,
Michael Good
Recordare LLC
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down8ve
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| Posted 10/18/2003 8:56 AM (GMT -6) | | I looked at the forums as you suggested and am struck by the fact that OS X users are getting quick responses to questions from some guy named Daniel who works for S*******. There is even a response from one of the owners of the company.
Also, everyone is on the same board. No Mac/Win split.
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encephalon
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| Posted 10/18/2003 12:42 PM (GMT -6) | | I've read through the Sibelius forums, and don't find that their tech support people (or company owners, FTM) are as terse as you imply, Zuill. Nor do I find that their "issues" are anywhere as serious as those facing Finale users now (at least on the Mac side).
All applications have bugs. All applications have limitations that will annoy varying amounts of users. I don't know how Sibelius stacks up to Finale in this way, as I have yet to really dive deep into that software.
The issues facing Mac users are much more serious than mere "bugs". For those of us who use notation software in our professions (not as a toy), we are forced to choose between what is avaiblable. At this point, Finale is 3 years behind the new operating system that most of us use every day. In my case, I cannot use MIDI input w/Finale on my Powerbook G4 without a seriously convoluted gear setup, which make the whole "portable" idea moot. Every other application that I use in my profession has migrated to OS X (Logic Audio, Pro Tools, Reason, FCP, Photoshop, Illustrator. . .to name a few), and most of them are already on second generation releases.
A bug is an inconvenience of varrying degrees. An application which prevents the user from keeping up with the current OS, is a serious problem. While Sibelius may not be as feature-rich as Finale, it has one feature that overrides them all: it will run on the current OS. This is the single greatest issue facing Mac users today, and I fear it will be the downfall of Finale on the Mac.
Besides, Sibelius is going to take advantage of this mess next week with a really attractive cross-grade offer next week.
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tallis
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| Posted 10/21/2003 8:56 AM (GMT -6) | | Zuill:
> I've looked at the demo of Sibelius 3, and I would only take them seriously if they had a tool as great as speedy entry. They don't. For my money, despite its faults, that's where Finale has it hands down.
What exactly do you find so great / superior about it?
IMHO the dreaded S**** application offers you more or less the same possiblities, only that you are not limited to just the capabilities of one particular tool at a time (e.g. when entering music).
To elaborate a little more: please know that I have been a staunch Finale user since the days of Finale 3.5 (boy, all that blood, sweat and tears to learn the program .... what an investment of time and goodwill!)
I refused to buy the ridiculous 2003 upgrade.
I have abandoned Finale almost entirely now, except for the times I need to print out an old score in Classic (and man, I DO HATE IT: having to launch Classic just to do that! ...) which would need too much tweakin' to make it look exactly like it did before in Finale.
I am not exactly unhappy about the other Program's capabilities, perhaps just having to give up old routines and shortcuts bothers a little.
With the advent of Panther I'm planning to abondon any OS 9 software I was using at all (which is to say: just FINALE) and since CODA / MM are not getting their act together it seems like they lost me (not only Herbie Hankock ....)
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