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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 5/20/2015 11:33 AM (GMT -6) |   | It can be easily done using a combination of tools. Enter the crescendo, set the edit filter to copy only Smart Shapes, copy and paste the second crescendo where needed, and use JW Change to swap it into a decrescendo. This would be a nice addition to do all at once, but alas, it is not there as of yet.  My bad. Zuill points out the JW Pattern plugin below that can do it.
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Zuill
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| Posted 5/20/2015 12:00 PM (GMT -6) | | Jari has a plugin that creates hairpins in sets. I believe it is the JW Pattern plugin.
Zuill
P.S.: With the plugin, you can choose 1 or more measures, as well as a measure stack. You can choose to have just measures with notes in the stack to receive the hairpins.
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| Posted 5/20/2015 1:55 PM (GMT -6) | | Seems like one can select either the crescendo or decrescendo (mouse) and make the shape; then drag the cursor in the other direction to make the opposite parity wedge. (When I do it, they're not symmetrical, but they are paired.) Both shapes go either way, not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Zuill
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| Posted 5/20/2015 2:05 PM (GMT -6) | |
paulbrainard said...
While we are on the subject - is it possible to highlight a bunch of smart shapes and adjust things like the start point, angle, etc? I can probably do some of that by adjusting one and then doing a vertical alignment, but would be super nice to be able to adjust the other attributes of a group of them on the fly, as you can with a single one. The JW Change plugin can do en masse changes, but maybe not exactly the way you want to. You might take a look and see what it can do.
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 5/20/2015 5:41 PM (GMT -6) | |
Michel R.E. said...
This single plugin is probably the most powerful tool in all of Finale's arsenal. This sentiment has been expressed many times on this forum.
Zuill said...
Jari has a plugin that creates hairpins in sets. I believe it is the JW Pattern plugin. Yes, Thanks for reminding me. I thought there was one, but I couldn't recall what it was.
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| Posted 5/21/2015 4:15 AM (GMT -6) | | Sure. NB that the following is windows only - you would have to get another macro program on Mac, and see if it is possible to access JW plugs from there.
At
http://www.jwmusic.nu/jwplugins/wiki/doku.php?id=autohotkey
there is a script that Jari made which lets you script his plugins.
I used that, and then added
;Crescendo - §<
:*b0:§<::
if (openJWpluginwindow("JW", "JW Pattern", 3, 2) = 1)
{
setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 1, 1)
applyandcloseJWpluginwindow("JW Pattern")
}
return
;Diminuendo - §z
:*b0:§z::
if (openJWpluginwindow("JW", "JW Pattern", 3, 2) = 1)
{
setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 1, 2)
applyandcloseJWpluginwindow("JW Pattern")
}
return
When I press § the system waits for another keypress. §< will make a cresc, §z a dim. So in action I highlight (in Selection Tool) the place where I want the hairpin/s to go, press key combo, done.
I have also done similar JW Pattern macros to add slurs en masse.
I got the inspiration to do this from Tim Davies blog. He is on Mac and has the most incredible macros going on.
http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/finale-blog-tim-davies-orchestration-screencast/
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 5/21/2015 6:33 AM (GMT -6) | | Thanks for sharing your AHK script. Just what keystroke is the "§" ?
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Charles Lawrence
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| Posted 5/21/2015 6:56 AM (GMT -6) | | | Thanks Vaughan. Must be a European keyboard. I don't see it on my USA style Logitech. I'll just choose another trigger keystroke.
PS: I can get it on my keyboard with ALT 0167, but not with a single keystroke.
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| Posted 5/22/2015 6:08 AM (GMT -6) | | Graeme Gilmore said...
While reading this thread, I wondered whether Aline Vertically would work with a crescendo and a decrescendo one over the other. It turns out it does (when either attached to the same staff or to different staves). The Aline Vertically made them exactly the same length. I could then move the decrescendo to its appropriate place and use the Aline Horizontal open. This method could be useful when there is only one or two pairs.
Just another way Finale can work.
I use this same technique all the time and, with a little practice, it's very quick and painless. Sometimes it helps to place a guide somewhat off center, as in the attached.
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