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Motet
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Date Joined Dec 2002
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Posted 12/22/2016 12:34 AM (GMT -6)

Harpsi said...

...if the hairpin's Vertical Position in JWPattern has been manually set to something else than Custom before running your script, there will be no field to insert the -148 to.

This is gilding the lily, but I solved this by implementing negative panel item numbers, which tab backwards, so you can set Vertical Position to Custom first.

OK, now back to music!

Finale 2014.5, 2011b, 2005, TGTools
Windows 7, 32-bit
MIDI input
Finale Transposition Chart

Motet
Isorhythmic

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Total Posts : 12849

Posted 12/21/2016 11:45 AM (GMT -6)

Sibelius, and I believe Dorico, do this automatically. Though I love this sort of hacking, I agree it's rather absurd to have to resort to it. (I think I'll get back to music now!)

Harpsi, I see your point now about the vertical position--I wonder why he put the fields in a crazy order like that. But since it seems like the JW settings are sticky from session to session, probably setting everything like I did is silly.

Charles, it sounds like your problem is solved by running AHK as administrator. (As you can tell from my Window Spy, I'm running a couple-year-old version of AHK.)

Finale 2014.5, 2011b, 2005, TGTools
Windows 7, 32-bit
MIDI input
Finale Transposition Chart

Post Edited (Motet) : 12/21/2016 10:54:18 AM (GMT-6)

Harpsi
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Posted 12/21/2016 10:44 AM (GMT -6)

I fully agree. But waiting for MakeMusic to implement all this might be waiting in vain.

Finale 2014.5, Win 10, Korg M1, Oxygen 25

Gareth Green
Player of fine trumpets

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Posted 12/21/2016 9:14 AM (GMT -6)

Am I the only person who thinks that Finale should be doing all this by itself, without relying on 3rd-party scripts that require a masters degree in coding to understand and implement ... ?

Gareth J. Green

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Charles Lawrence
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Posted 12/21/2016 9:05 AM (GMT -6)

Motet said...
Dunno. The Window Spy window is scrollable--are you looking at all its contents? Or maybe they've broken it with Finale 25.

--Just verified that the script still works with the status bar "window" unchecked.

I am running 1.1.24.03, which is one less than the latest 1.1.24.04. I have run into this before where you MUST, at least on my system, W10, run all AHK scripts as an administrator. When I do that, then the Window Spy does display the Status Bar Text in the appropriate box, whether the status bar is showing or not. Each box/pane in the Window Spy is scrollable, but not the entire window itself. It seems to auto size itself vertically to show all contents, at least for me. You can drag the very thin edge of the window to increase its size both vertically and horizontally, but you cannot reduce its size beyond what it sets up originally. No scroll bars ever appear for the window itself.

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Harpsi
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Posted 12/21/2016 2:35 AM (GMT -6)

Motet said...
That -148 corresponds to my below-staff baseline--that is, it lines up with dynamics placed there.

That I did understand. I just meant that if the hairpin's Vertical Position in JWPattern has been manually set to something else than Custom before running your script, there will be no field to insert the -148 to.

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Motet
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Posted 12/20/2016 7:49 PM (GMT -6)

Dunno. The Window Spy window is scrollable--are you looking at all its contents? Or maybe they've broken it with Finale 25.

--Just verified that the script still works with the status bar "window" unchecked.

Finale 2014.5, 2011b, 2005, TGTools
Windows 7, 32-bit
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Charles Lawrence
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Posted 12/20/2016 7:41 PM (GMT -6)

Motet said...
I didn't actually try it with my stuff, but I looked with AHK's Window Spy.

I'd be interested in how you looked with Window Spy. When I tried it, there was NEVER any text showing in the Status Bar Text area. If the Status Bar was displayed, you could move the cursor into the Status Bar area on the screen and Window Spy would show the text in the "Control Under Mouse Position:" area, but if the Status Bar was not displayed, then obviously, you could not position the cursor in the Status Bar area.

"Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!"

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32638 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory, 17514.37 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
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Motet
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Posted 12/20/2016 7:38 PM (GMT -6)

You of course may need to make adjustments for your own wishes. That -148 corresponds to my below-staff baseline--that is, it lines up with dynamics placed there. If there are low notes or stems, the dynamics are lower and so it must be aligned with TGTools' Alt-*. -148 was arrived at by trial and error; I'm not sure what Jari's units are.

You're probably right that filling in all those fields is unnecessary.

Finale 2014.5, 2011b, 2005, TGTools
Windows 7, 32-bit
MIDI input
Finale Transposition Chart

Post Edited (Motet) : 12/20/2016 7:22:04 PM (GMT-6)

Harpsi
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Posted 12/20/2016 6:59 PM (GMT -6)

Motet said...
I don't see why a similar check for the chord tool wouldn't work.

And indeed it worked!

Finale 2014.5, Win 10, Korg M1, Oxygen 25

Harpsi
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Posted 12/20/2016 6:42 PM (GMT -6)

The section with the sequences work very smoothly (as fast as my old script!), but I don't get the hairpins right.

setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 1, choice)
setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 2, "-148")
setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 3, 1)
setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 4, 0)
setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 5, 1)
setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 6, 7)

The second field only shows up if Vertical Position, slot 6, is already set to 7. Mine was not set up like that, so there was no place to insert -148 to. Slot 2 goes to "Only copy to music".

Not a big deal of course. I guess one could just set JW Pattern hairpin setting manually, they won't change anyway, and just omit those fields from the script.

Finale 2014.5, Win 10, Korg M1, Oxygen 25

Post Edited (Harpsi) : 12/20/2016 5:46:19 PM (GMT-6)

Motet
Isorhythmic

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Posted 12/20/2016 6:01 PM (GMT -6)

Oops, yes, sorry. Never make a change without trying it!

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Harpsi
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Posted 12/20/2016 5:59 PM (GMT -6)

`::
Input key,L1
if (key = "," || key = ".") {
    if (key = ","} {
        choice = 1
    } else {
        choice = 2
    }

I had an error message on the fourth line. Should it be

if (key = ",") {

Or am I missing something?

Finale 2014.5, Win 10, Korg M1, Oxygen 25

Motet
Isorhythmic

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Posted 12/20/2016 5:39 PM (GMT -6)

I didn't actually try it with my stuff, but I looked with AHK's Window Spy.

Finale 2014.5, 2011b, 2005, TGTools
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MIDI input
Finale Transposition Chart

Charles Lawrence
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Posted 12/20/2016 5:13 PM (GMT -6)

Motet said...
It looks like the status bar text is still there and available to AHK even with "Windows->Status Bar" unchecked.

Interesting. Good to know. Makes your life easier! I had not gone so far as to try it.

"Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!"

Windows 10 Professional (x64) (build 10586)

3.50 gigahertz Intel Core i7-5930K, Multi-core (6 total), Hyper-threaded (12 total)

32638 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory, 17514.37 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 - 4GB [Display adapter]

ASUS Rampage V Extreme motherboard, Realtek HD Audio

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Motet
Isorhythmic

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Posted 12/20/2016 4:57 PM (GMT -6)

It looks like the status bar text is still there and available to AHK even with "Windows->Status Bar" unchecked.

I don't see why a similar check for the chord tool wouldn't work.

Finale 2014.5, 2011b, 2005, TGTools
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Charles Lawrence
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Posted 12/20/2016 4:47 PM (GMT -6)

Motet,

Clever coding, but what if the Status Bar is turned off, i.e. "Windows->Status Bar" unchecked?

"Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!"

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32638 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory, 17514.37 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 - 4GB [Display adapter]

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Post Edited (Charles Lawrence) : 12/20/2016 3:54:17 PM (GMT-6)

Harpsi
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Posted 12/20/2016 4:37 PM (GMT -6)

I think you qualify for AHK Genius

That's really interesting. I won't pretend that I understand all the details, but would the first few lines work with other statusbartexts too, like for instance "chord tool"? I have a bunch of hotstrings for the chord tool that I now activate and deactivate with a toggle.

Finale 2014.5, Win 10, Korg M1, Oxygen 25

Motet
Isorhythmic

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Total Posts : 12849

Posted 12/20/2016 4:10 PM (GMT -6)

I figured out how to have two-character triggers using the backquote character followed by any character I want (i.e., not transmitted to Finale), and how to restrict these triggers to Finale's selection tool. I'm just getting started, but `, creates a crescendo, `. a diminuendo, `7 adjusts the starting point for p, `8 for pp, and so forth. For the record, here's what I have so far. I decided to use JW Change sequences for all the endpoint adjustments, at least for now.

selection()
{
   StatusBarGetText statusbartext
   return InStr(statusbartext, "selection tool")
}
#If WinActive("ahk_class Finale") && selection()

`::
Input key,L1
if (key = "," || key = ".") {
    if (key = ",") {
        choice = 1
    } else {
        choice = 2
    }
    if (openJWpluginwindow("JW", "JW Pattern...", "JW Pattern", 3, 2, "Creates hairpin") = 1) {
        setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 1, choice)
        setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 2, "-148")
        setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 3, 1)
        setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 4, 0)
        setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 5, 1)
        setJWpluginpanelvalue("JW Pattern", 6, 7)
        applyandcloseJWpluginwindow("JW Pattern")
    }
} else {        ; sequences
    if (key = "4" || key = "7") {
        task = 1
        wait = p <>
    } else if (key = "3" || key = "8") {
        task = 2
        wait = pp <>
    } else if (key = "5" || key = "6") {
        task = 3
        wait = mp <>
    } else if (key = "2" || key = "9") {
        task = 4
        wait = ppp <>
    } else {
        task = 0
    }
    if (task && openJWpluginwindow("JW", "JW Change...", "JW Change", 1, task, wait)) {
        applyandcloseJWpluginwindow("JW Change")
    }
}
Return

The wait strings are things I put in my sequence descriptions.

This is going to be a huge boon to me, not only for hairpins, but for other oft-used JW plug-in tasks as well. At least I feel like I'm ending these forums on a high note, so to speak. Thanks to all.

Finale 2014.5, 2011b, 2005, TGTools
Windows 7, 32-bit
MIDI input
Finale Transposition Chart

Post Edited (Motet) : 12/20/2016 5:21:11 PM (GMT-6)

Motet
Isorhythmic

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Posted 12/20/2016 12:10 PM (GMT -6)

Thanks for the AHK documention pointer. I did eventually find that. I am using ?, * and b0. But if the hotstring trigger is `7, it sends ` and 7 to Finale anyway, and the latter transposes the music up a step. I can of course avoid 7, and most keystrokes are innocuous in the Selection tool, but it would be nice not to have to worry about it, and I'm kind of surprised Autohotkey doesn't have a way of not passing the keystrokes on (rather than cancelling them with backspaces).

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Harpsi
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Posted 12/20/2016 2:41 AM (GMT -6)

...and thanks for the latest update. That's a huge speed improvement!

Finale 2014.5, Win 10, Korg M1, Oxygen 25

Harpsi
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Posted 12/20/2016 2:35 AM (GMT -6)

motet said...
It looks like without b0, the backspace characters erase the music--obviously not good!--but with it, the trigger characters are sent along to Finale--also not good! Any way around that?

I don't have that problem except for sometimes when it seems that AHK "misses" the first letter of the hotstring (I use trigger key plus numbers to change editing filter, and sometimes I get the explode function instead). Are you using ?, * and b0?

I found this documentation quite comprehensive:

/autohotkey.com/docs/Hotstrings.htm

Maybe you will find something there.

Finale 2014.5, Win 10, Korg M1, Oxygen 25

Motet
Isorhythmic

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Posted 12/19/2016 10:58 PM (GMT -6)

It occurred to me that openJWpluginwindow need not close all containers first, only enough to get to the one it wants. Also, no need to go back to the top afterwards and count down again. Instead, start at the top and collapse and move down, counting until the desired one is reached. I also changed it to allow negative container numbers, -1 being the last, -2 the next from the last, so you can start at the bottom if that's closer to the desired one.

So this should speed things up a bit. Attached below. I think that will be it for me!

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Finale Transposition Chart

Post Edited (Motet) : 12/19/2016 10:15:02 PM (GMT-6)

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Motet
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Posted 12/19/2016 10:20 PM (GMT -6)

If some AHK genius can tell me how to activate hotkeys/strings only when the selection tool is in use, that would be great. I tried

#IfWinActive, ahk_class Finale
StatusBarGetText statusbartext
#If InStr(statusbartext, "SELECTION TOOL")
...

but that doesn't seem to work

Finale 2014.5, 2011b, 2005, TGTools
Windows 7, 32-bit
MIDI input
Finale Transposition Chart

Post Edited (Motet) : 12/19/2016 9:25:18 PM (GMT-6)

Motet
Isorhythmic

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Posted 12/19/2016 8:59 PM (GMT -6)

Yes, I'm sure your "pure AHK" thing's faster. The "sequence" solution on my system only takes about a second, though. I'm not sure why yours is slower.

It looks like without b0, the backspace characters erase the music--obviously not good!--but with it, the trigger characters are sent along to Finale--also not good! Any way around that?

Finale 2014.5, 2011b, 2005, TGTools
Windows 7, 32-bit
MIDI input
Finale Transposition Chart

Post Edited (Motet) : 12/19/2016 10:14:17 PM (GMT-6)

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