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Cathy Aggett
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  		   Posted 11/3/2016 5:32 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Gentleman (I think you're all guys),

I've read this thread, which moves from ways of rotating text to the positioning of staff group names. I need to create slanted text that I can re-position, but doing it Peter's ways still didn't allow me to rotate the text. If you could clarify, I'd appreciate it.

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  		   Posted 11/3/2016 6:21 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You can create a Custom Smart Shape that rotates as desired. See the settings below.

So far as myself, I'm no longer a gentleman, just an altekaker (old fart).

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Charles Lawrence said...
Very interesting David and PIOTR. Seems to be just what I am looking for, David. Can you supply a link to the font you say OCTO provided? That would be great.



[Edit] I found the R & L Andale fonts from OCTO, also the one from Wess-Music. Thanks. For anyone else interested: http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=6&p=1&m=278511



I did not know this topic of rotating group names or staff names had been discussed at length before.


I tried Octo's 90 degree rotated font, but it is a bit too stylized for my score. I usually stick to (go ahead, excoriate me) Times New Roman for text indications (that or Bodoni).
Octo's font looks really cool and it was a breeze to make a staff group with the rotated name (I used "Soli" in my case, it's a triple concerto), but again, it clashes with all the other text in the score.

Does anyone know if there's a 90 degree rotated Times new Roman ttf somewhere?

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Michel R. E. said...
Charles Lawrence said...
Very interesting David and PIOTR. Seems to be just what I am looking for, David. Can you supply a link to the font you say OCTO provided? That would be great.



[Edit] I found the R & L Andale fonts from OCTO, also the one from Wess-Music. Thanks. For anyone else interested: http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=6&p=1&m=278511



I did not know this topic of rotating group names or staff names had been discussed at length before.


I tried Octo's 90 degree rotated font, but it is a bit too stylized for my score. I usually stick to (go ahead, excoriate me) Times New Roman for text indications (that or Bodoni).
Octo's font looks really cool and it was a breeze to make a staff group with the rotated name (I used "Soli" in my case, it's a triple concerto), but again, it clashes with all the other text in the score.

Does anyone know if there's a 90 degree rotated Times new Roman ttf somewhere?


Andale font is mono-spaced. It means that all symbols are equally wide, so when rotating them, they have all equal height.
With Times New Roman it is not the same thing. It would mean that one who creates that font must copy each symbol's width into new height. I am not sure how to do it, or if it is possible at all (I tried it in FontForge). AFAIK, each font has the fixed height (=for all symbols).
With Wess-Music's font one must compensate that difference in heights by spacing symbols very carefully.



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  		   Posted 11/4/2016 2:33 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Michel R. E. said...

Does anyone know if there's a 90 degree rotated Times new Roman ttf somewhere?

Not sure it's TNR, but Musegraph have a vertical font that consists of entire words for musical scores.

Cathy Aggett said...
Gentleman (I think you're all guys),

There are some ladies on the forum, too. And some who just aren't telling.

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  		   Posted 11/4/2016 8:33 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wess posted a font here a while ago using Times (not new Roman, though). It was called Times Vertical. The link seems to be dead in his post : forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=6&p=2&m=278511
I can't post the file here, zip is not accepted. Update : this link seems to work : /app.box.com/shared/2dsq53uqib
I hope it is usable on a PC...

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  		   Posted 11/4/2016 10:25 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"Perhaps MM should add better text support to their next iteration of the Finale product line.

Some day Finale might get a real text editor. :-)

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  		   Posted 11/7/2016 2:35 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What about the Berlin font from Musegraph?

http://musegraph.com/category/finale/

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