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paulbrainard
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  		   Posted 12/7/2015 8:18 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sooo. . another issue I just ran into with 2014.5, I loaded an mp3 into an audio track and it plays back too fast. I have run into this before with mixed up bit rates, but the thing is this file plays back correctly in the same score on my mac (2011). But import the mus file into 2014.5 on my PC, load the exact same audio file, and it plays back in the wrong key. What's up with that? It's a 44.1K mp3.

Also I thought we were supposed to be able to use other formats & bit rates now? The original of this audio track is a 24/48 wav file, but 2014.5 wouldn't load it (although .wav is in the list of extensions it will look for in the browse window.) I had to use itunes to convert it to 44.1 mp3

And when oh when will they come up with some kind of mapping between Audio Units and Aria player so we don't have to re-setup VST when moving a file between platforms (admittedly I may be one of few who do that. . .)
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  		   Posted 12/7/2015 8:30 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Just to check I started a fresh default document & imported the same track - still plays back incorrectly. Double-checked it in itunes, plays correctly there.

And tried with some other mp3's, all doing it. . .

Finale 2011c (mac) & 2014.5 (windows)

Post Edited (paulbrainard) : 12/7/2015 7:35:05 PM (GMT-6)

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  		   Posted 12/7/2015 8:40 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks for mentioning this. I hadn't done a take-down in 2014.5 yet. I checked and got the same result you did (the Chipmunks version). My audio mp3 is 44100. But my system is 48000. Finale, in the Audio setup, says the setting is 48000 and controlled by Windows, and the box is greyed out. So, I went into my audio settings (for the sound card) and changed the sample rate to 44100. Now, in the slot, it says 44100, which matches my mp3 sample rate, and all is well.

Thanks for the post. At least I won't be surprised when working on my next project.

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  		   Posted 12/7/2015 8:47 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
OK further experimentation reveals that a 48K mp3 plays back correctly. So it used to only work at 44.1 (in previous versions), now it only works at 48, great, would be nice if Finale could just deal with whatever it is. But it wouldn't load a 48K wav at all, which is supposed to work.

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  		   Posted 12/7/2015 8:49 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I don't entirely know what you mean by "system", that setting is dynamic I would think, like com port settings - otherwise how can something like itunes play back all kinds of different audio files correctly? Maybe I don't know that much about how the audio system works.

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  		   Posted 12/7/2015 8:57 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Took me a while to find those settings! That's the "shared mode" setting, so I guess Finale is using the sound card that way rather than taking control of it - in which case it would be able to set the bit rate as necessary (if they were to give it that capability.) Maybe that's a trade-off from when I couldn't play from any other programs if I had Finale open. . . still, I don't understand how any other audio program is able to play back audio files at other bit rates at the same time, maybe they are actually transforming them on the fly? Or, I don't understand this shared mode. . .

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  		   Posted 12/7/2015 10:23 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
On a related note (sorry) I am finding that 2014.5 has trouble starting playback in the correct place mid-score. The score is correct, but the audio track isn't, although it tracks fine if you start from the beginning.

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  		   Posted 12/8/2015 2:39 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I am not experiencing that issue. On the original note, I am now on my other machine, and have had to make the same settings to get 44,100 as the sample rate.

Thanks again for finding this glitch. It sure saved me from frustration at a busy season.

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  		   Posted 12/8/2015 6:10 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hmm still dogging me, not sure what's up. But thank you for all the help over the years!

Finale 2011c (mac) & 2014.5 (windows)

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  		   Posted 12/8/2015 7:05 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Are you using spacebar click? Also, have you synced the track up with the click track (Tempo Tap track) n Studio view?

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  		   Posted 12/8/2015 7:14 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
No it was recorded to a click so I just have the tempo set the same in Finale playback controls. Same file & mp3 work fine on my mac 2011c. . . maybe something happened importing it to 2014.5. I did notice that even though I deleted the audio track before I did that, when i added it again on the PC it had the same settings and (invalid) file reference in there.

Also, the audio track stops playing before the end of the score, just cuts off prematurely - although the mp3 itself doesn't. Haven't had time to try a fresh

I'll try a fresh score in 2014.5 and see what happens

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  		   Posted 12/9/2015 11:56 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hmm well I eventually went in & set my sound card to 44.1 and reloaded a 44.1K version of the mp3, which now plays back correctly & starts in sync mid-score. So for some reason, it seems like Finale was able to play back the 48K mp3 at the right speed but was calculating the start point at the wrong speed?

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