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CoGDork
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gogreen
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| Posted 5/9/2015 8:45 AM (GMT -6) | | I do this with much of my music here: /www.youtube.com/channel/UC95zzUgP6liWA_ozo7oQPCQ.
First, I create a good recording in Finale playback (a WAV file). Then I make a PDF of each score page, which I then tranfer to PNG.
Then in Windows Movie Maker, I match the music playback to each score page, and add titles (DOC files to PNG).
My procedure is pretty cumbersome, and there are probably faster ways to do this, one of which Wiggy suggested.
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EpeeDad
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| Posted 5/9/2015 12:33 PM (GMT -6) | | I produce study videos and PDFs of major orchestral works. The procedure that I use to produce the videos is as such:
1. Transcribe each piece by hand into Finale 2012 using a public domain score (mainly from IMSLP) as close to the original source as I can find. I still use Finale 2012 because I don't trust the MIDI export function. Too many weird anomalies particularly with dynamics and layers. It is bad enough in 2012.
2. Proofread (several times!) This has turned out to be the most difficult part of the process. Even with several passes and help from my violinist wife, I still find that my eyes (and ears!) miss the occasional error.
3. Edit a version of the score and parts for the PDF files. Generate the score and parts PDFs. I use the PDF995 print driver for this.
4. Careful editing of expressions, tempos, dynamics, etc. for playback and produce a MIDI file from it. I've found that the Human Playback function is a good start but the playback built into Finale just isn't good enough for my purposes. I need to export a MIDI file for later editing in a DAW.
5. Make a version of the Finale file for screen capture. This involves making the colors of all objects to be seen black and hiding any elements that shouldn't be seen. You also need to make the hidden object transparency preference to 0. I then set the view to scroll and adjust the zoom level so that all the staves show and are readable. This takes some fiddling around.
6. Screen Capture. I use Corel VideoStudio for this. Camtasia can also be used. I found that Snagit only captures at a relatively slow frame rate that doesn't work for this purpose. I very carefully size the portion of the screen to be captured to match the scrolling score in finale exactly. I allow about 10 seconds on each end for editing purposes.
7. open the MIDI file in my DAW (Sonar X3 in my case). It is important to make sure that the tempo from the MIDI file is used and not the DAW's default. In Sonar, you must open rather than import. The subtle rhythm variations that Human Playback puts into the file are important.
8. Set up the instruments, tracks, busses, etc. in the DAW to work with the MIDI file. I use mostly the Garritan Personal Orchestra instruments but have been experimenting with others particularly Kirk Hunter Strings.
9. Detailed editing of each part for velocity, dynamics, (CC1), Articulations, Key Switches, ornamentation, etc. I find that the dynamics produced by Finale in the MIDI file to be somewhat erratic but are a good starting point.
10. Mix & master the file. I use a light touch with EQ and very little compression. I choose which reverb for each piece among several that I have. It is a trial and error process. The final output will be used to generate the audio for the video and the audio for the MP3s.
11. Build the video out of the screen capture, various images, the audio file, the titles and credits. The screen capture needs careful editing (mainly at each end) to get it to synchronize with the audio.
Here is an example of the results:
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UCI-Okbn8E
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Chris
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saxop
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| Posted 5/9/2015 1:04 PM (GMT -6) | | | If the constant-cursor position with scrolling music underneath is needed, it would be pretty simple to write a program to do that. It shouldn't take an experienced programmer more than a few hours. I'm assuming that you'd still use a screen recorder to record the output of the program. Essentially you'd just make a program that can scroll an image and would allow you to insert time stamps at any point on the image. The user would start by marking the beginning and ending time stamps and then going back and adding individual markers at notes where the tempo shifts. You could make it convenient by allowing the user to click a part of the image during playback to link that position in the image to the current time in playback. The program would of course just assume a steady tempo (scroll speed) between every pair of time markers, so you wouldn't need to mark each note. | | Back to Top | |
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musikai
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| Posted 5/9/2015 3:39 PM (GMT -6) | | If your score isn't too complicated you can try this approach:
http://wim.vree.org/js/
which isn't a video solution but an interactive browser rendering.
You can test it directly on the website if you have a musicxml and mp3 of your score.
If you definitely want a video with an exact layout of your score this is of course no solution but still an interesting concept. | | Back to Top | |
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bvstudios
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| Posted 5/9/2015 6:49 PM (GMT -6) | | Now I wish I'd asked about it...
On a cruise ship last year, I noticed the stage band all used iPad-type tablets instead of sheets. Peering over the pianist's shoulder, I saw that his part it was scrolling very much like Finale scrolls in playback mode (scroll view), only "smoother". It was very similar to EpeeDad's version, except it seemed that each musician had his/her own part. The other thing I remember was how fluid the movement was. The bars were scrollling by a vertical line at the right tempo to keep the current bar pretty much in the centre of the screen.
I was going to ask him the name of the app. Sadly, I never got 'round to it before we disembarked, but perhaps there is a Mac or android app out there.... maybe? Or it could be proprietary, I suppose.
It'd be a very handy thing to have for performers.
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saxop
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| Posted 5/10/2015 11:06 AM (GMT -6) | | bvstudios said...
Now I wish I'd asked about it...
On a cruise ship last year, I noticed the stage band all used iPad-type tablets instead of sheets. Peering over the pianist's shoulder, I saw that his part it was scrolling very much like Finale scrolls in playback mode (scroll view), only "smoother". It was very similar to EpeeDad's version, except it seemed that each musician had his/her own part. The other thing I remember was how fluid the movement was. The bars were scrollling by a vertical line at the right tempo to keep the current bar pretty much in the centre of the screen.
I was going to ask him the name of the app. Sadly, I never got 'round to it before we disembarked, but perhaps there is a Mac or android app out there.... maybe? Or it could be proprietary, I suppose.
It'd be a very handy thing to have for performers.
I've found that for performers, it actually works best to keep the music stationary, but to do some sort of automatic vertical scrolling that always keeps the next part of the music in view. With the continual scrolling and constant cursor position, it makes it tougher to read. If you keep the scrolling steady, you have to change the music spacing to be exactly proportional to time, and things like key and time signatures can't really fit. If you leave spacing alone and the musical elements in place, you get jerky scrolling that disrupts the reader. I experimented with both of these for a while and never managed to create something that allowed musicians to read at their normal proficiency. I eventually went with a different idea.
SmartMusic's approach is actually really good. The musician just reads top to bottom, and after the cursor reaches the bottom half of the screen, the top half changes to reflect the music that comes next. So after reaching the bottom, the performer just immediately jumps back to the top, just like when reading sheet music, and there is never a "blind" moment like with Finale or most other applications. By doing this, SmartMusic also makes repeats work smoothly. | | Back to Top | |
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