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Andrew Harrison
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Posted 10/22/2016 2:38 PM (GMT -6)

Hi all,

I'm preparing a score of mine (from 2014) for publication, and I've realised that in bars 1 - 3, I've written a tied note that ultimately finishes with a staccato dot over the end of the sound. I'm pretty sure that what I wanted was a single, continuous sound that gets progressively louder, and that has a short, crisp cut-off.

However, I'm not sure if this notation is a tautology, and whether, in fact, the wind and brass players would need to re-articulate the note in bar 3; effectively getting rid of the need for a tie in bar 2. (I've attached the page of the score in question).

I'm keen to hear what others think, particularly those from a publishing background. The piece was written for a 'hybrid' ensemble, that included players with backgrounds in both jazz and classical music.

Many thanks for your help!

Regards,
ANDREW

Andrew Harrison
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Peter Thomsen
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Posted 10/22/2016 2:56 PM (GMT -6)

Indeed the staccato dot can look confusing in combination with the tie.

Instead of the tied 8th it might be safer to notate a 16th - without a staccato dot.

Or perhaps just notate as it is, but without the staccato dot?
When heard in the context it is obvious that the percussion cuts off the chord,

Peter

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Andrew Harrison
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Posted 10/22/2016 3:02 PM (GMT -6)

Thanks Peter. Yes, I thought that a 1/16 might be a good idea.

What do you think about a 1/16 note with an accent above it, tied to the previous note?

Thanks,
ANDREW

Andrew Harrison
Composer/pianist
www.andrewharrison.com.au
twitter:@AHarrisonMusic
Mac Pro running 10.7.5, Finale 2014d.v5545
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Peter Thomsen
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Posted 10/22/2016 3:09 PM (GMT -6)

Andrew Harrison said...
… What do you think about a 1/16 note with an accent above it, tied to the previous note? …

I would find the accent confusing - and unnecessary.

Perhaps it is just me, but I find this culmination easy to understand - impossible to misunderstand when heard in context.
The crescendo, the ff and the percussion say it all.

Peter

Mac Finale, 2012c, 2014d & 2014.5, Dolet 6.6 plug-in, Mac OS X 10.11.6, iMac Intel Core i7, 2.93 GHz, 16 GB RAM

Andrew Harrison
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Posted 10/22/2016 3:10 PM (GMT -6)

Thanks Peter.

Regards,
ANDREW

Andrew Harrison
Composer/pianist
www.andrewharrison.com.au
twitter:@AHarrisonMusic
Mac Pro running 10.7.5, Finale 2014d.v5545
Macbook Pro running 10.11.2, Finale 2014.5.7098

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Posted 10/23/2016 12:28 AM (GMT -6)

If you want to have a continuous sound, use expression.
<sf
or
<ff
To use 16-note is perfectly OK.

And please use "Score in C".

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