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Marius
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  		   Posted 5/21/2014 12:05 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hello Guys,

I don't remember how to write two groups with 10 notes each ( all 16-ths) within a 4/4 bar.
I tried to write them as triplets but it is not triplets. Just simple 16-ths.
I attached the page where that bar number 111 is. Both hands play the same thing, those 20 notes.
Maybe you can help me and let me know how I could do that.
Thank you so much!

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  		   Posted 5/21/2014 3:29 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think that the best way , in Simply Entry, would be using the Simply Entry Tuplet Definition:

1) Enter first 16th note.

2) Then, Alt+9 and in the opening window you can define whatever tuplet you want.

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  		   Posted 5/21/2014 11:30 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
for 4 tuplet groups with 5 semiquavers per group:

Press Ctrl 5 :: play in the five notes as semiquavers

Repeat this for the other tuplet groups.

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  		   Posted 5/21/2014 11:46 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sounds like Marius wants 10 16ths in the space of 2 quarters, all beamed together.

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  		   Posted 5/21/2014 12:56 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes, Motet, exactly. I need to write 10 16-ths in the space of 2 quarters, all beamed together.

Thank you guys, I will try to do so.

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  		   Posted 5/21/2014 1:09 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Suso's instructions for Simple entry seem good. In Speedy entry, type Ctrl-1, set up the tuplet, then enter your 10 16ths.

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  		   Posted 5/21/2014 1:10 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I did it in Simple, 5 sixteenths in the space of 4. Then, I used the / key to change the grouping.


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  		   Posted 5/21/2014 1:57 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As long as you're hiding the numbers. Otherwise, two "5"'s on one beam is not good.

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  		   Posted 5/21/2014 2:12 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It finally worked. I used Shift and mouse left side...and I had to check some box that I didn't check before.
One small detail missed and it had not worked.

Thank you guys! Thank you very much! Now I have the score.

Ps. However, it didn't connect all 10 notes with one stem, I have 4 groups of 5 notes each.
I needed two groups of 10 but this doesn't work for now. I will experiment more.

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Post Edited (Marius) : 5/21/2014 3:15:59 PM (GMT-5)

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  		   Posted 5/21/2014 4:35 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I've never understood all these special key-clicks and convolutions. Look at the picture I attached. It's as easy as 1, 2, 3. 1. Enter 1/16 note. 2. Click on tuplet tool. 3. Define the tuplets. Beaming, etc. all correct. No fuss, no muss.

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  		   Posted 5/21/2014 4:43 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
That's essentially what Suso suggested above, except with Alt+9 instead of clicking the icon. Doesn't seem like a convolution, especially if you're not using the mouse for entry.

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  		   Posted 5/21/2014 5:14 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Motet said...
That's essentially what Suso suggested above, except with Alt+9 instead of clicking the icon. Doesn't seem like a convolution, especially if you're not using the mouse for entry.


I agree about Suso's suggestion, but then we went on to discussions about Ctl-5 keys and different beaming problems and the like which, to my mind, only serve to confuse the issue.

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Indeed!

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