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Jolora
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Posted 10/1/2016 10:34 AM (GMT -6)

See the attached picture. I have measure numbers set up at the start of each line. If I also set them up to display the range under multi-measure rests, and if a system starts with a multi-measure rest, the start of the system gets no measure number. This is in F2014.5, but I'm not sure its different in other versions.

Aside from using the Text Tool and adding the number manually to the start of the offending systems, is there a way to make Finale do this on its own?

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Joe

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Motet
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Posted 10/1/2016 11:25 AM (GMT -6)

There may be a simpler solution, but you could always define a duplicate regions, one for "show on first measure of system" and one for "show on multimeasure rests."

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N. Grossingink
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Posted 10/1/2016 11:31 AM (GMT -6)

I think what you describe is correct behavior. Why would you want the line to start with a single number as well as the range under the MM Rest? What's the single number doing in the margin and why a different size and style?

How about this-

N.

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Motet
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Posted 10/1/2016 11:40 AM (GMT -6)

I think there's something to be said for glancing down the left margin at measure numbers and not having them disappear when there's a multi-measure rest. There's a similar issue with rehearsal marks as measure numbers, I think.

Finale 2014.5, 2011b, 2005, TGTools
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N. Grossingink
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Posted 10/1/2016 12:38 PM (GMT -6)

Motet said...
There's a similar issue with rehearsal marks as measure numbers, I think.

There is a checkbox to "hide measure numbers" in the designer box for rehearsal marks which avoids the repitition of measure number and numbered rehearsal mark.

N.

Flint
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Posted 10/1/2016 2:11 PM (GMT -6)

Slightly off topic but tangentially related... where should the measure numbers be placed when you have a 2+ staff group in a part? (keyboards, divisi strings, etc.)

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If the composer says in effect to the performer: "I do not care whether you perform my music or not," we cannot argue the matter. But if he indicates: "I want you to perform and respond to this music," then his fundamental duty is to write his music so that it is accessible to interpretation. When the performer cannot approach the composer's meaning because of capriciously obscure notation, he may in effect say to the composer: "Why should I bother to puzzle out your music?" - Gardner Read

Jolora
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Posted 10/1/2016 4:29 PM (GMT -6)

Motet said...
There may be a simpler solution, but you could always define a duplicate regions, one for "show on first measure of system" and one for "show on multimeasure rests."

Motet,you inspire me! Never even thought that could be done, but it works like a charm.

N., I am trying to accomplish two things at once here. A good deal of the Finale work I do is "refactoring" existing printed parts (usually from older, public domain works) for the visually impaired (which includes me). I want to remain as close to the original work as is feasible (I do correct and notate obvious mistakes), while "exploding" everything up by a given percentage. For example, what I am working on now is the Tromba I part to Beethoven's Symphony No. 5. My output will turn a 4-page, 9x12 score into a 12-page, 9x12 part. This part contains many 20-plus multi-measure rests (like 23, 33, 43, 64, etc.). During rehearsal, the director will invariably begin in the middle of one of these multi-measure rests, so having the ranges listed is a big aid to the trumpeter.

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