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Granville
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  		   Posted 11/14/2016 9:06 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
F 2014.5 on MacBook Pro (El Capitan).
Attached is a file showing the key signature BEFORE the bar line at Letter D. Other key signature changes are normal.
Anybody with a solution?
Thanks.

MacBook Pro OS 10.11.2 (El Capitan). Finale 2014.5



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  		   Posted 11/14/2016 9:27 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As far As I Can Tell, the key signature at letter D is displayed AFTER the barline, both on the computer screen and in print.

However, the repeat bar is displayed after the key signature (= not on the barline, but rather at the beginning of the measure’s music).
Having the repeat bar at the beginning of the music is quite common, and I do not see it as a problem.

Do you need the repeat bar to be positioned on the barline?

Peter

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  		   Posted 11/14/2016 8:40 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks for your quick reply. Obviously it's all OK on your computer but not on mine. I have attached a screen shot of mine.
Interesting?

MacBook Pro OS 10.11.2 (El Capitan). Finale 2014.5

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  		   Posted 11/14/2016 9:05 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Here's what I see.
 
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  		   Posted 11/14/2016 9:13 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Do you want to get rid of the barline before the key change? If so, use the measure tool and set it to invisible.

Bill

Finale 2014.5 (all versions since 1.0)
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  		   Posted 11/14/2016 9:22 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
So is this what you want?

Bill

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  		   Posted 11/15/2016 1:00 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Granville said...
Thanks for your quick reply. Obviously it's all OK on your computer but not on mine. I have attached a screen shot of mine.
Interesting?

I think that you forgot to attach your screen shot.

Peter

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  		   Posted 11/15/2016 2:34 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Whoops....attachment hopefully.

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  		   Posted 11/15/2016 6:16 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Granville said...
… Attached is a file showing the key signature BEFORE the bar line at Letter D …

Granville said...
Thanks for your quick reply. Obviously it's all OK on your computer but not on mine. I have attached a screen shot of mine.
Interesting?

Your screen shows what I - and Zuill - see at letter D:

First comes the barline.
The key signature comes AFTER the barline.
The repeat bar is positioned AFTER the key signature = at the beginning of the measure’s music.

Having the repeat bar at the beginning of the music is quite common, and I do not see it as a problem.

Do you instead need the repeat bar to be moved to the left, to be positioned on the barline?

Peter

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  		   Posted 11/15/2016 7:26 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think because it is a repeat bar line, I have to have the key change before the repeat sign.
OK....i can live with that.
However, I would prefer to have the bar line before the Bb removed (answered above).

Thanks guys...as always.

MacBook Pro OS 10.11.2 (El Capitan). Finale 2014.5

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Peter Thomsen
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  		   Posted 11/15/2016 1:31 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Granville said...
… However, I would prefer to have the bar line before the Bb removed (answered above) …

You can hide the barline by choosing “invisible” right barline for the measure before the key change.

This “invisible right barline” trick is done in the Measure Attributes:
Measure Tool, double-click the measure.

Peter

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  		   Posted 11/15/2016 6:12 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks guys.

MacBook Pro OS 10.11.2 (El Capitan). Finale 2014.5

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