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| Posted By : Spider - 4/4/2002 6:18 PM |
In preparation for printing my Orchestral Score to page size 11"X14",I've enlarged my music file, and converted it to a kdf file as required by Kinko's. However, Kinko's preview of the page (11"X14") shows the right side of the page cut off, about 2 measures or so. This happens eventhough the 11"X14" page size was programed in the Kinko's format.
Does anyone out there know of a place or procedure I can use to get my music file (Orchestral Score) printed on 11"X14" size paper? My personal Printer is too small for the job.
Sincerely,
Darrel
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| Posted By : TTBashore - 4/5/2002 12:01 PM |
I assume you mean "pdf" file. If you could post the file online, that would help us diagnose the problem. It could be that the pdf wasn't formatted correctly.
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| Posted By : SpiderA - 4/5/2002 1:08 PM |
I've tried to use the following:
What Is the Kinko's File Prep Tool(tm) Application?
The Kinko's File Prep Tool(tm) (Kfp(tm)) application is an exciting new way to save your files for printing at Kinko's. After you install the saftware on your computer, you can open any document and print to the Kinko's File Prep Tool(tm)--just as if you were printing to a physical printer. When you select Kinko's File Prep Tool(tm) in the print window, our software will create an onscreen proof, or preview, to show you exactly what your document will look like when it's printed. After you're finished checking the preview, save your converted file in Kinko's Document Format (KDF). You can put your file on your hard drive or on any kind of removable media, from floppy disk to jaz(r) disk.
Now that you have converted your document to a KDF file, you can visit www.kinkos.com to place a web order. You can also take your KDF file to your nearest participating Kinko's location to hand-deliver your order.
Has anybody had this experience with Kinko's, or do you know of a procedure to get my Orchestral Score printed on 11"X14" paper?
Thanks, Darrel
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| Posted By : TTBashore - 4/5/2002 3:51 PM |
Sorry, never messed with that format. Most service providers and print shops will accept pdf files however, and if you have Adobe Acrobat (full version not just reader) it is quite easy to create a pdf file from Finale that will include all the fonts. Well, that is unless you're using Windows XP and PostScript fonts. Then it is quite difficult.
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| Posted By : GT - 4/6/2002 7:23 AM |
On 4/5/2002 8:51:00 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Most service providers and print shops will accept pdf files...
Never, ever, ever accuse Kinko's of being a service provider, though.
I have all my large-scale printing work done at an honest-to-goodness reprographic facility, which has no problems handling EPS and PDF files, in or independent of PageMaker publications.
The people there (as at all real service providers) know the ins and outs of the printing process, which has not at all been my experience at chain places like Kinko's, Copy Max or Staples.
(Note to Anon: I got an e-mail back from Coda saying that really are working on the PostScript thing as hard and as fast as they can. Let's all root for their success...)
Cheers.
Gary
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| Posted By : TTBashore - 4/6/2002 8:53 AM |
Note to Gary: Woo-hoo!!!! I'm tired of dealing with PostScript problems. Did they say what was causing the problem?
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| Posted By : GT - 4/6/2002 9:31 AM |
Anon:
Uh-uh. Here's the e-mail in its entirety, including Coda's reply.
From me:
Hello:
I'm a registered user (XXXX-123456 on the PC platform), and I have a rather important feature request.
If you read the contributions on the Finale Forum, you'll see that quite a few people have complained about the PostScript issues found in Finale, especially when involving Windows XP.
I'm one of them.
There are some people on the Forum who have come to regard me as a sort of expert in this area, and have even e-mailed me at home to ask for my help in creating PDF or EPS files. I'm not an expert, but because I've learned some workarounds, I have been able to give them advice based on my own experiences.
This e-mail is not a request for support, because I've tried all of your suggestions already. (I've also tried suggestions from HP's tech support and users of the Adobe Forums. I have yet to find any "Own PS" or printer settings that solve all of these issues.) Instead, I want you to be aware of some of the problems I've had:
* When printing from Finale to my HP 5000, I need to print to the PCL driver. If I print to the PS driver, no music characters print. (To be fair, this could have something to do with Illustrator, because on another PC with no Adobe applications other than Acrobat and ATM and also running XP Pro, Finale prints correctly to the PS driver.)
* With the HP 5000 set as default, Finale does not create good EPS files; that is, these EPS files can't be opened in Adobe Illustrator. If these EPS files are placed into PageMaker, PageMaker vapor-prints. (My workaround for this has been to set the Microsoft Publisher Imagesetter as the default printer. Using this driver, the EPS files behave as they should. Setting any other HP driver as default results in the same problems.)
* Compiling a PostScript listing and running that through Distiller is successful.
* Creating an EPS file and running that through Distiller is successful.
* Printing to the Acrobat PDFWriter is successful-with this qualification: Certain things might not make it into the PDF, but it's random. For example, while I use the Times font for all of my expressions, one or two expressions might not make it into the PDF even though all the others do.
* Printing to Distiller takes a really long time and results only in a failure message from Distiller.
A helpful fellow on the Adobe Illustrator Forum asked me to e-mail him some Finale EPS files. He ran them through a utility called GSview and found one error after another. He opened it up in a text editor and started deleting the offending operators one at a time. Eventually, GSview was able to open the file properly. His diagnosis was that Finale's EPS files had blatant errors: The font names were completely scrambled and there was a whole bunch of garbage before the %%PS-adobe.
I don't think that only Coda is to blame here; if what HP claims are PS drivers are actually only clones, they're just asking for trouble. And Microsoft is Microsoft; they never do anything wrong, and everyone else has live with the results of that attitude of superiority. There's no question that this is a Windows issue, because I use all of the above-mentioned applications on my Mac and I never have these problems on that platform.
I'd be very curious to know how your coders' computers handle all of these issues-and if they have no problems, what drivers and settings are they using?
I truly believe that your engineers need to take a hard look at how Finale handles the entire PostScript issue. When I have to spend more time coming up with a workaround than I do creating the files to begin with, there is a serious problem. Since we're never going to convince Microsoft to fix things, it would be great if you could tweak Finale to work properly with XP.
Thanks,
Gary Tomassetti
From them:
Gary,
Thanks for the request. I can assure you, we are currently working on this issue as hard/fast as we can. I will definitely email your description of the EPS problem to the engineer who's working on the problem - I think it will be very useful to him. Thanks for your input.
Here's hopin'...
Cheers.
GT
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