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Posted By : Saffron - 2/19/2009 10:48 AM

It is interesting how many first time forum users seem to post in the Finale Plug-ins folder rather than the Notation folders - could this be because of the forum names?

Especially for those users from non-English speaking countries, seeing these titles: ...

Public Forums
	Forum Name	Topics	Posts	Last Post Info
	Notation - Windows	20872	130488	Underlined letters and accidentals in lyrics Today 10:04 AM (N. Grossingink)
	Notation - Macintosh	8437	50347	Acrobat PDF print queue - blank page in Finale Today 10:40 AM (Bart Visser)
	SmartMusic	486	1667	Elementary Jazz Improvisation Today 9:41 AM (Trombonamaphone)
	Finale Plug-In Development	446	1282	adding a system Today 9:54 AM (Forum Admin)
	Finalescript Plug-in	261	854	Page Setup 2/17/2009 7:40 AM (Jetcopy)

... it's not particularly hard to see why they zero in on those forums that actually mention the word, "Finale".

Maybe you should rename the two "Notation - xxx" folders to "Finale Family - xxx", or even just plain "Finale - xxx"! It would save a whole lot of moderator intervention and thread locking ...

Brian

Posted By : Dr. Wiggy - 2/19/2009 11:12 AM

Howabout:
Finale on Windows
Finale on Mac OS
Smart Music
Plugin Software development
Finalescript

...?

Finale 2009b, 2Ghz iMac, OS X 10.5.6, M-Audio Audiophile USB
M-Audio Oxygen 61; Yamaha PSR-410
Ancient Groove Music
www.ancientgroove.co.uk

Posted By : Saffron - 2/19/2009 12:47 PM

Those names look good, Wiggy!

Brian

Posted By : Dr. Wiggy - 3/4/2009 8:39 AM

I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet.....

Finale 2009b, 2Ghz iMac, OS X 10.5.6, M-Audio Audiophile USB
M-Audio Oxygen 61; Yamaha PSR-410
Ancient Groove Music
www.ancientgroove.co.uk

Posted By : Saffron - 3/4/2009 2:54 PM

Indeed, Wiggy, though I suppose it's kinda on-topic in at least one sense! :-)

Anyhow, I've been thinking about it, and it seems the current catergories need brushing up, not just their names. The two "Notation" forums are dreadful catch-alls, arbitrarily divided on platform, even though most messages and threads would be equally application both to Windows and the Mac. So how about:

Finale: Notation

Finale: Playback

Finale: Installation

Finale: Bugs and Features

SmartMusic

Developer's Corner

"Notation" would be anything to do with printing, layout, how to get particular music effects like glissandi, feathered beams, or whatever, with an emphasis on printing, PDF creation, and web publishing - ie, the "engraving" aspect of all versions of Finale. Most posts would be platform independent.

"Playback" would be anything to do with MIDI, Garritan, Kontakt, Aria, saving as Audio, synchronising with QuickTime, and so on - ie, the "sequencer/DAW" aspect of all versions of Finale. Again, most posts would be platform independent.

"Installation" would cover the business of - er - installation, as well as authorisation, trashed preferences, dog-ate-my-DVD, and might need Windows and Macintosh variants.

"Bugs and Features" would be where people like "Ebony Ivory" could bang on about failings in the software, or things which just work in a dumb or misfunctional way. By taking this discussion away from the other forums, it would leave those others friendly and uncluttered, so that people like "Saffron" could get on with discussing music and Finale! :-)

"SmartMusic" does just what it says on the box.

"Developer's Corner" could take on the rather defunct forums that currently cover Plug-In development in general (this forum), and Finalescript in particular.

What do you (or others) think?

Brian

Posted By : Jesper Hendze - 3/4/2009 5:12 PM

I'm with Saffron here!
Jesper

PowerMac Dual 2 GHz, 3 Gb RAM
Finale 2009 and all previous versions (although Finale 2.0 is the oldest present on HD)
Garritan Personal Orchestra
Garritan Jazz & Big Band
Garritan Concert & Marching Band
MIDI: Interface: emagic MT4
Keyboard: Korg X5D/Roland D50
Ensoniq MR Rack with expansion card (percussion)

Posted By : Saffron - 3/4/2009 5:42 PM

Jesper Hendze said...
I'm with Saffron here!
Jesper

Wow, it's great to have an endorsement from one of the longest-serving Forum members! Thanks! :-)

Brian

Posted By : Jesper Hendze - 3/6/2009 12:06 PM

You're welcome!
Personally I think there is a great need for a Playback Forum. Playback has become more complicated as at least three different companies provide the software at work in audio playback.
It needs more focus here.
Regards,
Jesper

Posted By : Mike Rosen - 3/10/2009 4:28 PM

They work for me, too.
Brian, Why not post this over on one of the other fora? More people would see it, and could add support if they like the idea.

Mike Rosen
www.specialmillwork.com

WebMaster for the Seattle SeaChordsmen
www.seachordsmen.org

NEW SITE www.specialmillwork.com/finale_tips.htm

Print Music 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009
Simple Entry, QWERTY keyboard. That's my system, and I'm stickin' to it.

Favorite reference: Essential Dictionary of Music Notation, Gerou & Lusk, 1996

"As a musician, he's a damn fine woodworker."

Posted By : Saffron - 3/10/2009 7:32 PM

Mike Rosen said...
They work for me, too.
Brian, Why not post this over on one of the other fora? More people would see it, and could add support if they like the idea.

Thanks Mike - it might be worth doing, though "Ebony Ivory" suggested something similar a couple of years ago, and got shot down in flames by the usual suspects! ;-)

Brian

Posted By : Mike Rosen - 3/13/2009 11:19 AM

But those "usual suspects" have been conspicuous by their absence, lately, so maybe it's worth another try.

Posted By : Saffron - 3/13/2009 12:37 PM

Mike Rosen said...
But those "usual suspects" have been conspicuous by their absence, lately, so maybe it's worth another try.

True - I just didn't want to tempt fate! :-)

Brian

Posted By : Saffron - 5/5/2009 9:18 AM

As of today, 11 out of the most recent 25 threads on this forum are locked - "by forum policy". That's a pretty poor success rate for posters, and surely lends weight to my suggestion that some forum renaming and reorganisation is long overdue, to help people find the right locations for their queries!

Any thoughts, moderators and sysops?

Brian

Posted By : Michael Good - 5/18/2009 11:54 PM

I see the forums, including this one, have been renamed now. Thanks!

Michael Good

Recordare LLC

http://www.recordare.com

Posted By : Saffron - 5/20/2009 11:56 AM

Well fancy that! :-)

They say, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease", and I have (or rather, my former alter-ego, Ebony Ivory, has) been called a "squeaky wheel" more than once on this Forum.

It's good to see sensibly proffered suggestions been taken up - thanks to the Forum Admins for this one!

Now to get back to squeaking about some long-term issues in Finale itself! lol

Brian

Posted By : iannis - 6/29/2009 9:04 AM

Wow, I just noticed this myself. Kudos to clarity!

Finale 98-2009
Kontakt 3
EWQL Platinum
VDL 2.5
Vista 64-bit, Quad core, 6gb RAM

Posted By : donjoao - 8/7/2009 5:09 AM

Thanks for renaming the forum

John

Don Joao Resort

Posted By : Saffron - 8/7/2009 5:30 AM

Welcome to the Forum - but what an interesting first post!

Have you been lurking (ie, viewing as a guest), or are you completely new to the Forum, in which case, I'm even more intreagued by your comment!

Brian

Posted By : vinnce - 1/6/2010 11:26 PM

hummm still waiting

vinnce
Guest House in Goa

Posted By : Dr. Wiggy - 1/7/2010 6:00 AM

There seem to be quite a lot of posts by newcomers, which seem vaguely relevant, but which also include links to non-relevant websites.

Spam much?

Finale 2009c, 2Ghz iMac; 2Ghz MacBook, 10.6.1
Edirol FA-66; M-Audio Oxygen 61; Yamaha PSR-410
Ancient Groove Music
www.ancientgroove.co.uk

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