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   Posted 6/24/2012 3:32 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
KennethKen said...
Don't forget the double mordent (aka long trillo) in all the fonts (slot 181).

There are also shakes(?) in Broadway Copyist (e.g., slots 68, 143) which don't respond to the Ornament or Idiomatic Articulation filters. And the Jazz Font ornaments don't appear to be hooked up (tr; shakes -e.g., 136, 124; mordent 77, etc.).


Thanks for the additional info! I've documented the bug now.


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   Posted 6/24/2012 2:14 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jari Williamsson said...
KennethKen said...
Here's a test file. Selecting Note Entries/Resize - All - Ornament Articulation - Visible does not affect notes with tr symbols that use EngraverFontExtras as the type face.


Ok, now I see what mean. I'll support those specific slots in EngraverFontExtras in the next beta.
Don't forget the double mordent (aka long trillo) in all the fonts (slot 181).
There are also shakes(?) in Broadway Copyist (e.g., slots 68, 143) which don't respond to the Ornament or Idiomatic Articulation filters. And the Jazz Font ornaments don't appear to be hooked up (tr; shakes -e.g., 136, 124; mordent 77, etc.).
 
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   Posted 6/24/2012 12:53 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
KennethKen said...
Here's a test file. Selecting Note Entries/Resize - All - Ornament Articulation - Visible does not affect notes with tr symbols that use EngraverFontExtras as the type face.


Ok, now I see what mean. I'll support those specific slots in EngraverFontExtras in the next beta.


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   Posted 6/24/2012 8:29 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Here's a test file. Selecting Note Entries/Resize - All - Ornament Articulation - Visible does not affect notes with tr symbols that use EngraverFontExtras as the type face.

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   Posted 6/24/2012 3:11 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
KennethKen said...
Is it possible for the "Ornament" filter option to work with a font other than Maestro? I have a files with the default music font set to Maestro but utilize custom tr signs (as articulations) using EngraverFontExtras. JW Change doesn't process those notes (e.g., Note Entries/Resize) when I use the "Ornament" filter option.


That should work. Are you sure the entry is on a resizable entry (such as first entry in a beamed group)?

Custom lines will be supported later, but I'm not sure if custom lines will be supported as entry filters.


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   Posted 6/23/2012 4:03 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jari Williamsson said...

* Shape articulations are now supported by the articulation filters. For example the "tr #" articulation as an ornament.
Any possibility of having smart shape ornaments (i.e., custom smart shape) supported?
 
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   Posted 6/23/2012 3:56 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

The plug-in is looking really great, Jari. Bravo!

Is it possible for the "Ornament" filter option to work with a font other than Maestro? I have a files with the default music font set to Maestro but utilize custom tr signs (as articulations) using EngraverFontExtras. JW Change doesn't process those notes (e.g., Note Entries/Resize) when I use the "Ornament" filter option.

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   Posted 6/23/2012 3:09 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Happy Midsummer to everyone! That's one of the most important holidays here in Sweden, so here's a new JW Change beta update to celebrate. :-) Beta version 0.21 of JW Change (now available) includes the following additions and fixes:
* "Noteheads/Single Pitch" now accepts lower case note names as well
* "Noteheads/Single Pitch" now deletes unisons by default. This feature can be turned OFF with "JW Plug-in Tool - Options".
* Entries can now be filtered by duration OR by attached articulations
* Filters now have descriptive titles that describes what the different filters do in each container.
* Shape articulations are now supported by the articulation filters. For example the "tr #" articulation as an ornament.
* "Hairpin/Left Position" and "Hairpin/Right Position" that numerically controls the positions of the hairpin end points. IN EDUs - bad UI at the moment...
* 2 new filters for noteheads: "Resized" and "Custom"
* "Tuplets/Delete" added (deletes the tuplet but keeps the notes)
* "Articulation/Delete" added
* "Beams/Group" no longer crashes (but it still isn't hooked up).
* "Notehead/Tie" added
* "Dotted" now works in combination with the duration filters


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   Posted 6/23/2012 1:27 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
KennethKen said...
I don't think users will mind some "bloat" as long as it serves a good purpose. In this case it could save users the frustration and trouble of coming to the forum to to bother you about what "Even numbered" refers to under section/sub-section, "Articulations/Horizontal Position" - even numbered articulations in the articulation selection DBX? articulations with an existing even numbered horizontal position? even numbered articulations within each measure? ;-)


Good point. I'll try to implement that in the next version, available shortly.


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   Posted 6/21/2012 12:23 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jari Williamsson said...
Kenneth: If you want to switch the triplet beam stubs to the left in your example picture, I would suggest the "In Tuplet" entry filter.
Good suggestion. I could also get it to work with "Even Numbered", since I know, from exchanges with you that filter option refers to even numbered entires and not even number beats. My main point was that the name of the filter option that I was actually selecting didn't describe what I was actually filtering and left me to draw the association rolleyes, which leaves room for misunderstanding (especially with me). Maybe it's perfectly clear to other users.
 
I don't think users will mind some "bloat" as long as it serves a good purpose. In this case it could save users the frustration and trouble of coming to the forum to to bother you about what "Even numbered" refers to under section/sub-section, "Articulations/Horizontal Position" - even numbered articulations in the articulation selection DBX? articulations with an existing even numbered horizontal position? even numbered articulations within each measure?;-)
 
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   Posted 6/21/2012 7:44 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Kenneth: If you want to switch the triplet beam stubs to the left in your example picture, I would suggest the "In Tuplet" entry filter.

Headings are good, but they also bloat the UI, which I try to avoid. However, there is still much work to be done on the filters, specially for beam stubs, beams and stems.


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   Posted 6/21/2012 7:15 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jari Williamsson said...
KennethKen said...
So if my beam stub is on beat 2 and there are notes in beat 1 (and beat 1 is included in the selection) then nothing happens, right?
If this is the case then "First Entry in Selection" may be a bit clearer.

The first item in each filter indicates what the filter affects. "All Entries" means that the filter popup controls entries, "All Accidentals" means that the filter popup controls accidentals, etc.
Oh, right. Sorry about the double post. It appears that the filter titled "First in Measure/Sel" refers to the first entry in the measure, not the first beam stub. This is a tad confusing for me because I was in the "Beam Stub" section so I assumed "First in Measure/Sel" referred to beam stubs in the measure; so it didn't make sense that the beams stubs at the beginning of the measures below weren't being flipped.  

Like "Beat" (vs Upbeat or Downbeat), it may help us if you can be specific on each filter option's name (though I see you don't have a lot of space to work with in the dropdown). I think it's more intuitive to associate the main section "Beam Stub" with an abbreviated filter option's title than to associate the top selection of a long dropdown with later items in the dropdown (The heiarchy that draws the association isn't as strong if "All Entries" is just another item in the dropdown.). When I'm in the "Beam Stub" section, beam stubs are foremost on my mind. Perhaps a heading (e.g., "Entries") right above each filter's dropdown would help to clue in the user more clearer as to what all the items in the list refer to and avoid the mis-association. 


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   Posted 6/21/2012 5:04 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
KennethKen said...
Is there a way to resize note entries that are not at the default (or 100% size)? I have to resize a bunch of notes that are all over a score at 85% up to 90%. I'm hoping I can do this with a single command but there doesn't appear to be a way JW Change can filter out the 100% notes from the 85% notes.


I'm trying to add this to the next build.

KennethKen said...
I'm trying to resize a bunch of dotted quarter notes in compound time but there is no filter option for dotted quarter notes (or any dotted notes). If I choose "Dotted" in the first filter and "Quarter" in the second filter I get an error beep from my computer and noting happens. If I choose "Dotted" in the first filter all "All Durations" in the second all my dotted notes get resized (dotted eights, etc.) which is not what I want.


I think you reported this earlier as well. This is a bug.

KennethKen said...
So if my beam stub is on beat 2 and there are notes in beat 1 (and beat 1 is included in the selection) then nothing happens, right?
If this is the case then "First Entry in Selection" may be a bit clearer.


The first item in each filter indicates what the filter affects. "All Entries" means that the filter popup controls entries, "All Accidentals" means that the filter popup controls accidentals, etc.


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   Posted 6/19/2012 7:14 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi Jari,

I'm trying to resize a bunch of dotted quarter notes in compound time but there is no filter option for dotted quarter notes (or any dotted notes). If I choose "Dotted" in the first filter and "Quarter" in the second filter I get an error beep from my computer and noting happens. If I choose "Dotted" in the first filter all "All Durations" in the second all my dotted notes get resized (dotted eights, etc.) which is not what I want.

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   Posted 6/18/2012 4:36 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Is there a way to resize note entries that are not at the default (or 100% size)? I have to resize a bunch of notes that are all over a score at 85% up to 90%. I'm hoping I can do this with a single command but there doesn't appear to be a way JW Change can filter out the 100% notes from the 85% notes.

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   Posted 6/18/2012 4:33 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jari Williamsson said...
KennethKen said...
I have two beam stubs in a measure and want to the move the first one from the right to the left.

If I select the measure and then in JW Change slick on Beam Stubs - Direction - Left - First in Measure/Sel(the rest of the word doesn't show) - Apply, I get an error sound from my computer and nothing happens.

Does "First in Measure/Sel" mean that the plugin is supposed to work on the first Beam Stub in the selected region or the first beam stub in every measure of the selected region?


In this case, it's the first entry in the measure and/or selection (everything in that popup are related to entries). If no beam stub appear at that first entry, nothing will happen.

So if my beam stub is on beat 2 and there are notes in beat 1 (and beat 1 is included in the selection) then nothing happens, right?
If this is the case then "First Entry in Selection" may be a bit clearer.
 
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   Posted 6/18/2012 2:26 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
KennethKen said...
I have two beam stubs in a measure and want to the move the first one from the right to the left.

If I select the measure and then in JW Change slick on Beam Stubs - Direction - Left - First in Measure/Sel(the rest of the word doesn't show) - Apply, I get an error sound from my computer and nothing happens.

Does "First in Measure/Sel" mean that the plugin is supposed to work on the first Beam Stub in the selected region or the first beam stub in every measure of the selected region?


In this case, it's the first entry in the measure and/or selection (everything in that popup are related to entries). If no beam stub appear at that first entry, nothing will happen.


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   Posted 6/18/2012 1:52 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have two beam stubs in a measure and want to the move the first one from the right to the left.

If I select the measure and then in JW Change slick on Beam Stubs - Direction - Left - First in Measure/Sel(the rest of the word doesn't show) - Apply, I get an error sound from my computer and nothing happens.

Does "First in Measure/Sel" mean that the plugin is supposed to work on the first Beam Stub in the selected region or the first beam stub in every measure of the selected region?.

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   Posted 6/17/2012 5:48 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Great. Thanks Jari.

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Under Hairpins:

Hairpins Align Left and Right: Can it be possible to add Dynamics to the the Horizontal Alignment Point pulldown menu?

I'm still a little unsure on how the UI is built but is it possible to also put a number box like seen in Vertical Position, in the Align Left and Right areas. The reason for this is that when using Measure Border or Note Entries as Horizontal Alignment Point, I will never have the end of a hairpin touch the barline and with note entries, one of my client's style is to start the hairpin to the right of the notehead not directly on the notehead. It would be nice to be able to put in a number to adjust the end points from the alignment point. If this is not possible could you add to the Hairpins list "Right Endpoint Position" and "Left Endpoint Position?


At this point I don't think it's possible to add a Dynamics to the horizontal hairpin alignment list. (Well, everything is possible, it's more a matter of the amount of user limitations, complexity of the UI and development time.) There are some internal things in Finale that has to be added first.

However, numerical adjustments of the right and left horizontal end point are absolutely planned for hairpins! Please note that the measurement for the hairpin positions will be in EDU.


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There's no way for Finale to transpose trill articulations and smart shapes to accomodate a key change is there? e.g. In C major a D has a "tr flat" above (trill to E flat) and the passage gets transposed to D major - Finale isn't intelligent enough to know to change that "tr flat" to a "tr natural" (E to F natural trill).

Wonder if a plugin in can be this smart... Jari, you think your Change Plugin could at least let us manually filter for a certain articulation/smart shape on a specific pitch and swap it for another articulation/smart shape?


I think this belongs in another plug-in that I'm planning for the future.


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KennethKen said...
Is it possible to add an articulation - or, more specifically, an ornamentioned notes filter to Note Entries/Resize? I have to go through a piece and shrink a bunch of notes that have trill markings over them.


I'm trying to find a way to add more specific articulation classes to the note entry filters, without adding complexity.


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Is it possible to add an articulation - or, more specifically, an ornamentioned notes filter to Note Entries/Resize? I have to go through a piece and shrink a bunch of notes that have trill markings over them.

Ken
This type of thing may be beneficial to others who have to include editorial notation for ornaments or other playing techniques (e.g., ways to interpret accents, etc.)


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Hello Jari,

I'm finally able to take some time and test the JW Change plug-in.

Under Hairpins:

Hairpins Align Left and Right: Can it be possible to add Dynamics to the the Horizontal Alignment Point pulldown menu?

I'm still a little unsure on how the UI is built but is it possible to also put a number box like seen in Vertical Position, in the Align Left and Right areas. The reason for this is that when using Measure Border or Note Entries as Horizontal Alignment Point, I will never have the end of a hairpin touch the barline and with note entries, one of my client's style is to start the hairpin to the right of the notehead not directly on the notehead. It would be nice to be able to put in a number to adjust the end points from the alignment point. If this is not possible could you add to the Hairpins list "Right Endpoint Position" and "Left Endpoint Position?"

Thanks for a great plug-in.
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There's no way for Finale to transpose trill articulations and smart shapes to accomodate a key change is there? e.g. In C major a D has a "tr flat" above (trill to E flat) and the passage gets transposed to D major - Finale isn't intelligent enough to know to change that "tr flat" to a "tr natural" (E to F natural trill).

Wonder if a plugin in can be this smart... Jari, you think your Change Plugin could at least let us manually filter for a certain articulation/smart shape on a specific pitch and swap it for another articulation/smart shape?

Ken


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