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Lyraviol1
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   Posted 1/28/2004 3:24 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have recently been creating scores for a choir. I have been at wits end trying to get the lyrics to look readable. The lyrics tend to run together. I have changed the size of measures, and even reduced the number of measures on a staff all with very mixed results. If I reduce the size of the lyrics, some of the older choir members complain about not being able to read the lyrics. I have tried loading library spacing files, but that still does not solve the problem. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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   Posted 1/29/2004 2:29 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Have you tried Options menu > Document Options > select "Music Spacing" > check "Avoid Collision of Lyrics"?


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   Posted 2/8/2004 9:38 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.


I have Avoid Lyric Collisions checked and occasionally I still have lyric collisions, but usually only after optimization or adding new staves.  I found that it's usually not the lyrics that are colliding, but the melody notes to which they are attached.
Retranscribing from Mass Edit corrects the note problem instantly but the lyrics also instantly disappear. 
 There are several fixes. You can go to Speedy Entry and physically drag the melody notes to their proper positions. The lyrics will follow.
This next one was found on a recent thread-You can go to Tools>Advanced Tools>Special Tools>Note Position and select the handle of the offending note. Then hit backspace and the note will be put in its proper position and the lyrics will be spaced correctly
You can also go to Tools>Advanced Tools>Note Mover and select the handle of the note and just move it in the general direction that it needs to go. It will be placed correctly and you don't have to manually align it.
While there are several options to correct this problem, it seems that this should not be happening in the first place.... Ah well, easier said than done.


 
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   Posted 2/8/2004 1:25 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"...I stillĀ have lyric collisions, but usually only after optimization or adding new staves..."

After changes to the music like these, you should respace the music and update the layout before taking the other steps to correct the music spacing. If you are still experiencing lyric collisions, you might be trying to force too much music per staff system or you may be using too "tight" of a spacing setup.

Jim Coull

PS You might get more responses & solutions to this post on the windows forum.

Post Edited (Jim Coull) : 2/8/2004 5:27:26 PM GMT

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   Posted 2/8/2004 7:31 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I do almost all vocal music and find that Finale spaces lyrics pretty well. I do a bit of touch-up before printing, but I don't have anything like the problems you describe. Could you post an example of a badly spaced piece? Maybe there is an easy solution to your problem.

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   Posted 2/8/2004 7:34 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
By the way, this question should be in the Mac or PC section, not the Plug-Ins section. You would get much more response if it were moved.

Bill
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