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chipzoller
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   Posted 6/29/2010 9:58 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm using a script that calls a tool in the Special Tools palette and know it needs to be called from menu "Tools/Special Tools/Note Shape" (according to the documentation in Finale 2011 for Mac), however this isn't working. It doesn't seem to be calling the tool at all, and the only way I can invoke this command (I wish to change selected noteheads with a keystroke combination) is to access the tool first, highlight the note(s), and then call the script with a press enter command in place of the menu command. Has anyone out there built a script which uses a Special Tool? Any advice?


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   Posted 6/29/2010 9:32 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
To call up this tool using Finalescript:
menu item "note shape"
This only bring the tool up, it doesn't highlight any specific notes in any measure.

If I wanted to automate what you're describing I might try using the change notehead command under the utilities menu instead. You'd highlight the measure(s) in question with the selection tool, then run the script. It would begin like this:
menu item "noteheads..."
then you would script in what notehead to look for and what notehead to replace it with.

JT


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   Posted 6/29/2010 10:46 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The reason I can't do that is because there is no set pattern or select noteheads that need to be changed. It has to be a manual process. What I *REALLY* wish for in this case would be the ability to assign metatools to any of the special tools. I guess what I have can work.


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   Posted 6/30/2010 6:46 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
chipzoller said...
. What I *REALLY* wish for in this case would be the ability to assign metatools to any of the special tools. I guess what I have can work.

I use Quickeys to create keystroke shorcuts to bring up tools within the Special Tool palete. It works great.


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   Posted 6/30/2010 8:35 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah, I've read about people doing this and have installed the demo of QuickKeys, although I haven't put much time into it yet. Are you saying you assign special tools keystrokes like those available to access other tools (Mac: Ctrl + Opt + F-; (semicolon))? Or essentially metatools for performing special tool actions once you've manually selected it?


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   Posted 6/30/2010 8:48 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I use Quickeys to create a keystroke which brings up the specific tool I want. From that point on, I use the tool manually. Quickeys can also be programmed to perform a sequence of tasks, but not every Finale dialog box and menu are accessible from Quickeys. Usually the ones that don't work from Quickeys do work in Finalescript.

But in one of my previous posts, where I mention using the change noteheads command under the utilities menu, I do have a script set up which changes quarter-note noteheads to x noteheads on whatever notes I highlight with the selection tool.


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   Posted 6/30/2010 8:55 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What kind and how many keystrokes are there available to use with QuickKeys which haven't been taken by Finale? Your script sounds useful, and it would work in my case if I didn't need to selectively replace certain noteheads within a stream of straight 8ths.


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   Posted 6/30/2010 9:08 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I don't know specifically how many keystrokes are available, but I haven't run out yet. You can program keys like:
command+any key
Option+any key
Control+any key
command+option+any key
control+option+command+any key
etc....


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   Posted 6/30/2010 9:11 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Does QuickKeys intercept the keystrokes before Finale does? One of my gripes with assigning keyboard shortcuts to Finale scripts is that the subwindow created to define said keystrokes doesn't intercept the commands but instead lets them process in the main program before reporting if they are occupied or not. I realize this is off-topic, but seeing as how the Finalescript forum is sparse to begin with...


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   Posted 6/30/2010 9:33 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm pretty sure that Quickeys shortcuts take precedent over Finale's shortcuts. When you assign a Quickeys shortcut to a keystroke, it'll tell you if that keystroke is already assigned to another Quickey. But it won't tell you if it's assigned to a Finale shortcut. I did make a mistake once and assigned a Quickey to something that Finale had built in. The Quickey worked and the Finale keystroke didn't in this situation.

Even though you mention that your notes need to be replaced selectively, I think QK would still speed up the process for you.
Highlight note(s). Hit QK.


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   Posted 6/30/2010 12:25 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jetcopy said...
I don't know specifically how many keystrokes are available, but I haven't run out yet. You can program keys like:
command+any key
Option+any key
Control+any key
command+option+any key
control+option+command+any key
etc....
Don't forget you can now use midi to trigger QK and you can trigger with voice commands which can get annoying to those around you. "SELECTION TOOL" You can purchase other devices like X-Keys www.xkeys.com/xkeys/xkpro.php to work alongside the other ways of triggering automation. Check out the foot pedals on the X-Keys site. I doubt you will ever run out of ways to trigger QK, unfortunately Finalescript isn't as versatile but I still love it and would find it hard to live without it.

SF


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   Posted 6/30/2010 12:30 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
SF said...
... and you can trigger with voice commands which can get annoying to those around you.

You mean I can yell at my #%@* machine and it'll listen to me. Cool!


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Post Edited (Jetcopy) : 6/30/2010 12:01:37 PM (GMT-5)

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   Posted 1/11/2011 4:40 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jetcopy said...
I use Quickeys to create a keystroke which brings up the specific tool I want. From that point on, I use the tool manually. Quickeys can also be programmed to perform a sequence of tasks, but not every Finale dialog box and menu are accessible from Quickeys. Usually the ones that don't work from Quickeys do work in Finalescript.

But in one of my previous posts, where I mention using the change noteheads command under the utilities menu, I do have a script set up which changes quarter-note noteheads to x noteheads on whatever notes I highlight with the selection tool.


This is brilliant. Thank you for the information! I'm now using it successfully. For the record, the script I wrote is:

menu item "noteheads..."

click radio "Selected notehead" near "Change to"

tab

type "À"

press "ok"
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