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Wlgold
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   Posted 3/1/2005 12:07 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I would like to print blank manuscript paper for use in rhythmic dictation, in different time signatures, with the beats marked evenly under the staff. Is there any way Finale can do this or do I have to create something with the text tool (time consuming) ?
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   Posted 3/1/2005 12:45 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Like this?
 
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   Posted 3/1/2005 12:49 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Just thinking outloud: Could you use "headless notes?"

Example: in 4/4, enter 4 quarter notes and change the notehead to none (I have no clue if that's even an option, but it might be). You might have to play with where you put the note (ie what pitch) to get the stems where you want it. You might also have to change the stem length.


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   Posted 3/1/2005 1:46 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
tbmartin said...
Just thinking outloud: Could you use "headless notes?"

Example: in 4/4, enter 4 quarter notes and change the notehead to none (I have no clue if that's even an option, but it might be). You might have to play with where you put the note (ie what pitch) to get the stems where you want it. You might also have to change the stem length.


To change the notehead to none, you replace it with an empty shape.

Stem lengths can be set globally in the Document Options.

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   Posted 3/1/2005 2:15 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
From my reading of the original post, all he wants is beats marked under the staff. I just put rests in and hid them. Why do you need to enter notes and hide the heads? I don't think he wants the stems, just the counts. Or am I missing something?

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   Posted 3/1/2005 3:27 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I thought he was looking for a mark of some type falling where the beat is in an otherwise blank measure. Doesn't hiding rests just give you an empty measure when you print it, or did you do something else to the file? (I can't check right now because I'm at work, which means I really shouldn't even be checking the forum!! ;-) )

Wlgold: Have we answered your question?


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   Posted 3/1/2005 4:02 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wlgold said...
...with the beats marked evenly under the staff.

Another idea : you could use slashes under the staff.
Create a new staff under the main one. In staff attributes : define a staff with zero lines and alternate notation : slashes.
If the slashes are too oblique for your taste, remember ou can re-define what a slash is supposed to look like in Document Options->Alternate Notation->Large Slash.
92 (vertical line) or 203 (less oblique slash) in Maestro are among other possibiities.

Updated : I replied a bit too fast, and I missed Zuill's suggestion, with beat numbers. If numbers is what you want, that's of course the way to do it.


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   Posted 3/1/2005 4:40 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Zuill's solution was pretty close. It would be nice to have a dot or something between the numbers for the upbeat, but one can live without.

I see the hidden quarter rests, but how do you get the count below?

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   Posted 3/1/2005 4:43 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I thought he meant the beats as in numbers. My method is still the easiest, because rests will be spaced evenly in the measure so that the lyrics attached to them will be spaced evenly. Instead of the numbers I used, one could enter a mark in the lyrics tool that would provide the same function.

I used the blank notation layer 1 staff style, which still shows the lyrics.

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P.S.: I now have eighth rests hidden with lyrics attached to get the + between the beats.


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Post Edited (Zuill) : 3/1/2005 10:40:05 PM GMT



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   Posted 3/1/2005 5:12 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Not having Finale available to see Zuill's example, I didn't know he entered the beat-markers as lyrics. Wish I had thought of it. I agree that's a much easier solution.


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   Posted 3/1/2005 6:38 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
One more version with the dots.
 
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   Posted 3/2/2005 2:20 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
That's going to work fine. Thanks for all your help.
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