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gluckow
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  		   Posted 12/8/2005 12:08 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have read several threads refering to "rowloff" sounds.  What are they?  How does one use Them? Thanks.  XP WINDOWS/Finale 2006a
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  		   Posted 12/8/2005 1:16 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The rowloff sounds are usable sounds for what would be marching band percussion. (BTW www.rowloff.com is the company, their CD's are funny and the music is excellent). For a person who arranges and writes marching music (like me), it gives realistic sounds to the marching area. Some sounds are great, others are OK. At least they give you an idea of what your music sounds like. There are more realistic sounds available at a cost.

You can use them in the set up wizard and they are in the marching percussion catagories. If you use them, print out the appendix with the rowloff notation from the user's manual. It will save a lot of headaches. Experimentation is a lot of fun which the sounds.

One more thing, I have had trouble converting the sounds to MIDI, so beware if you are going to do this. Joe has been real helpful with the rowloff sounds (see my previous posts) and he will probably chime in on this one.

Jim

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  		   Posted 12/8/2005 1:40 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks Jim for the info, Gordy
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  		   Posted 12/8/2005 1:49 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
They are in the Softsynth soundfont, not GPO. You need to have it set to Channel 10 (or the 10th channel of each set of 16 GM patches). Then, and this is important, you need to select patch 2. The mapping is quite different than normal percussion mapping. If you are using a MIDI keyboard, entry is easier, since snare alone has more than 7 different sounds on a single staff location.

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P.S.: One nice thing is that it has a gong sound, which the standard percussion soundfont (patch 1) does not.

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  		   Posted 12/8/2005 2:31 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Didn't know about the gong. Good to know.

Jim

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  		   Posted 12/8/2005 2:51 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Here is a 2005 file showing the difference in Gongs. I don't know how it plays with the 2006 soundfont, so try it and see. Because 2005 didn't allow simultaneous patch 1 and 2 percussion, I used an expression to make the change.

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  		   Posted 12/8/2005 4:42 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
OK, Now I dont want to sound dum here, but I have to ask. Are you saying I should choose the "instrument" window from the window menu, then on the staff in question I should choose channel 10 and then in the last column there is a drop down menu to choose a patch from the 128 GM list, your saying patch number 2?. Or am I in the wrong place here. I know this is probably very basic for you, but I could use the help, thanks.
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  		   Posted 12/8/2005 6:38 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I use 2005. It probably works that way in 2006 for the softsynth. Even though they say they are pianos, when it comes to percussion, that is of no concern. You are in the right place. If you choose the marching percussion in the wizard, it should do that selection for you.

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  		   Posted 12/9/2005 9:53 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks, I'll try messing with that on my lunch hour.
Gordy
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  		   Posted 12/9/2005 10:35 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Gordy,

The advice that Zuill gave also works in 2006. If at all possible, set the percussion sounds you want to the wizard, then pull the instrument list to see exactly how they are set up. I do the set-up in the wizard just because it is easier.

Jim

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