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Francis
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   Posted 5/29/2006 6:33 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi,
 
Here is another one.
 
Has somebody solved the problem of bitonal chords written on a score with two simple triad chords, one above and one under with an horizontal line between both, different from "/" ?
 
 
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   Posted 5/29/2006 7:07 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If you are talking about the visual aspect, it is one of the three options available in Finale for a while now. In the chord definition window, click on the checkbox "alternate bass" and select "under root" in your case. It uses the horizontal line.
If you are talking about playback, as far as I know, only the upper chord will sound.


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   Posted 5/29/2006 1:46 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think mic's help will work well, provided the upper and lower chords are both simple triads - no suffixes. If you want suffixes on both, I'd render each symbol as THREE chords: the top chord with suffix, the "middle" chord which is nothing but a horizontal line, and the bottom chord with suffix. Of course, there will be a significant amount of individual positioning involved.


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   Posted 5/29/2006 4:28 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As Doug points out, my answer was basically valid for superimposed major triads. Even for minor triads, things get more complicated, as the bottom chords needs more than the root, a symbol like m or min or -.
If we are talking about using seventh chords in the bottom chord (usually the bottom chord serves as a rather simple and basic foundation and limits itself to the main chord tones and does not include the tensions, which are developped in the top chord), a solution could be the following (if you are ready to create additions to the chord suffix library) :
create duplicates of the most basic 4 note chords : Maj7, 7, -7, -Maj7, -7b5, dim, etc... and add a vertical line above as part of these new suffixes.
Now you can create you dual chords in just 2 steps : top chord, bottom chord including the horizontal line. A bit of fine tuning for positioning will still be necessary.
Forget about getting a decent playback of those configurations.
I personnally turn off the chord playback anyway, it doesn't sound nice and interferes with what I need to hear well : the voicings and the balance of the other elements of the score.


Michel
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