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sjerrels
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   Posted 10/19/2006 1:38 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Does anyone know how to get a successful import and read on a tiff file?  I would like very much to be able to used scanned music on a project and I am only getting rests in the file when it is "recognized."  The display on the left looks great but recognition is extremely poor.  I am running XP professional with 2007 Finale and 2 gig of ram.  The tiff files are at 300 x 300 quality and black and white.
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   Posted 10/19/2006 1:56 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Are the scans of printed, or handwritten music? If it's handwritten, then I suspect your chances of getting a useable scan are pretty slim. Do a search on the forum for scanning; this topic comes up a lot. You may have better luck with the search if you use google, and search forum.makemusic.com, rather than the forum search engine here.


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   Posted 10/19/2006 8:45 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Every little thing matters in OCR of scans. Scans of good quality printouts of standard format sheet music or pdf's converted to tiff has to be the starting point. Figuring out the "personality" of the conversion program makes things easier as time goes on. Scanning software set to line art or black & white, darkened a bit, 300 dpi to start with (600 on difficult pieces sometimes helps), cropped to just include the bars of music gives the ocr the best chance.

You can only expect spotty results with the included "lite" version of ocr. With simple scores and the stars aligning, you can bring over the basic notes. As the scores get more complicated, it doesn't have enough resources to keep up. You will have to upgrade or pick up Sharpeye to have any sanity left after much scanning.


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Michael Good
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   Posted 10/20/2006 12:27 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The scanning software makes a huge difference. Many people find that SharpEye Music Reader gives the best overall results. You can download a 30-day free trial at
 
 
As Mike mentioned, scanning only works on engraved scores, not on handwritten scores or those published by copying the manuscript.
 
Gary's advice for line art is often good, but won't work for HP scanners which need to be set to gray-scale scanning.
 
Good luck!


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   Posted 10/20/2006 4:11 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Michael Good said...
Gary's advice for line art is often good, but won't work for HP scanners which need to be set to gray-scale scanning.


But remember that the built-in Smartscore Lite can absolutely not handle grey-scale scans (and hence doesn't work with that HP scan software that will not produce pure black and white scans). The current versions of both Smartscore and SharpEye handle grey scale scans.

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   Posted 10/20/2006 4:31 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I tried SharpEye a while back and decided that, while it did OK, there were enough mistakes and omissions to make proof-reading and clean-up a worry. And while it may do well on good-quality input at getting the basic notes, musical notation is a a vague enough thing that dealing with the more subtle things ultimately becomes an artificial intelligence problem that's going to be hard for software to handle. Still, it could be a time-saver if you're confident you'll be able to catch all the mistakes.


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